luka

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While researching the film, genius Adam Curtis interviewed conspiracy theorists in Birmingham, people who believed in “one of the great dream worlds of our time,” the idea that the CIA, Walt Disney and the Illuminati brainwash and control all the major stars. He soon learned that, when pressed, these people didn’t really believe the story. They just loved its epic magical dimensions – an alternative to this “dull, desiccated, grim, utilitarian world.” Their imaginations had taken them somewhere.

“Isn’t it about time the left started recognising that imagination is central to this, that somehow, if you’re going to take people with you, you’ve got to imagine something,” he says. “Sitting in those conspiracy theories, however mad they are, is a sort of truth for a lot of radicals in that you've just got to imagine an epic world. And, if you do, people are fascinated, really.”
 

Mr. Tea

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Did you ever meet Zhao? He moved to Uganda to escape liberalism.
He was last seen around these parts claiming that the Chinese government was "protecting" the Uyghur and that nothing untoward happened in Tiananman Square in June 1989.

He really was the biggest fucking twat of all time.
 
none of us really believe that the implementation of the theories and projects ruminated on in those spheres would actually lead to an egalitarian future.

not true. stop trying to speak on behalf of the forum, you and luka both. you're potentially warding off smart and attractive new members.
 

RWY

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you're potentially warding off smart and attractive new members.
Am I? If anything, I would expect my stance on this subject to be more of an incentive for new members to engage and explain to me why I’m wrong and why these things can, actually, be achieved.
 
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Mr. Tea

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I'm a liberal, so I'm definitely the wrong person to ask!
Missed opportunity to say "Well-cut suits for men, big hair and shoulder pads for women, cocktails and cigarettes for all, sophisticated 90s r'nb on the stereo, Ghostbusters on telly every weekend", if you ask me.
 

craner

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Missed opportunity to say "Well-cut suits for men, big hair and shoulder pads for women, cocktails and cigarettes for all, sophisticated 90s r'nb on the stereo, Ghostbusters on telly every weekend", if you ask me.

I thought that was obvious, good point though.
 

luka

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This a forum for the apolitical and therefore liberal by default. No 'smart' people allowed. Can't tolerate people and their ideas.
 
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luka

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Shiels wants us to be respectable so Goldsmiths people will engage us in earnest debate
 
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luka

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"Have you seen his TED talk?"

"Oh yes it was very stimulating wasn't it"
 

luka

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RUdewhy is almost as bad as a communist what with his top hat and coat tails
 
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