Jackin' / Electroline

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Couple of other big new tunes:

Billy Kenny - Don't Stop
Billy Kenny's a don. Can tell from his mixes and productions he takes the whole thing a touch more seriously than most. Always high quality and well thought out.

Development - All Night
All Night reminds of sweaty drug fuelled dancing at 2:31. Early morning rave tune for sure. Love the rolling bass.
 

NATO

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Agree with you Datwun that the more out there warps and WTF moments are being replaced with more straight-down-the-middle house vibes. I'm coping with it by just playing more of the artists Benny mentioned, many of those are making great music. I do think you're on shakier ground re: the division between Jackin' and other styles of house, as IMO it was never massively pronounced in the first place. It sounds to me like you might be experiencing a bit of burnout - I know I am. Foamo and Gorgon City are capable of knocking out some good tracks, although I agree about MNL. I bought one of their tunes and found it vibeless in the mix. Their mixes are also dull as fuck and show all the signs of a pair of producers that will eventually disappear up their own arses (creatively) in an attempt to account for the sense of insecurity they probably harbour about the fact what they're doing isn't real music. :D

I said to Alta the other night that it feels like music of this genealogy in the UK at the moment is a lot like the rise of New Labour was in the mid-late 90s, as it signalled a huge rush to the middle ground. As he rightly said; that is a depressing analogy, and I'm sure it won't be as seemingly irreversible for music as it was for politics. I'd love that tune you were talking about too, got a gig on Friday. On that note 'You Want Me' is a great Halloween tune, the intro sounds are straight b-movie horror.
 
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NATO

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Forgot to say that that Lorenzo mix is superb again Benny, coming up with some unmissable mixes recently.
 

datwun

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First up: Absolute banger from Ill Phill & Loz:
Has absolutely everything I want in a track, love the ravey/tekkno synth stabs, hip hop voxs and a massive jackin bassline!

More darkside danger from man like Brent Kilner:
love the drums on this one, reminds me a lot of Narrows, proper Kick Daan Ya Door vybez

Jambie alerted me to this one:
" Big hit vocal with the pounding bass most clubbers want ! "
Who can argue with that???



Nato:

Halloween Party:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0k9pyp
WARNING! DANGER! may contain donk. handle with care!!!

I know that there's a lot of plausible deniability with jackin, that it's always edged very close to other genres (deep house, electro, bassline etc.) But for me, with tracks like You Want Me, We Superstylin, Snapbacks and Tattoos, there's no doubt that its its own genre, its own sound and its own thing. Thing is, jackin's always been a mixture of the strange and the familiar, and there was always a contradiction between the sense of it being something new+ its sense of locality (just for U Brum/Leeds) (See Loz's New Year's facebook status last year where he talks about "how many people get to say they invented a new genre) on the one side, and then this desire to connect to the wider house movement - "house & bass", having all of the major big room house acts play 02:31, Tom Shorterz in interveiws talking about Speed Garage as his 'guilty pleasure', when Speed Garage makes up a huge chunk of the DNA of jackin etc.

For me that's why I focussed on the name 'jackin' when I wrote my article, when to be honest the majority of ravers at 02:31 don't talk about jackin OR house & bass, but 'dirty house' or just 'the Rainbow sound'. For me what was most exciting about jackin wasn't just that there was loads of great music, which is true for Disclosure, Friend Within, all the assorted bassy house acts going on at the moment. What was exciting was that there was loads of great music focussed around a particular sound focussed around a couple of particular localities - something which was more or less meant to be impossible what with the internet and seapunk and witch house or whatever.

There's so many directions within jackin that could have been, and still could be such an interesting path. You've got all the properly hardcore euphoric hands in the air stuff (We Got a Love, Deep Love, Your Carress, all that stuff), Brent Kilner and his tech-step at 126 thing, and then artists like Lorenzo, Aggz, Chris Gresswell, Paul Lawrence just exploring all the contours, every wobble and warp of the jackin bassline. What we definitely don't need is for jackin just to become more like all the other bassy house out there.

Also the decline of bigtunes is such a shame too. That was such a great model, a central hub to get ALL of this stuff, where tracks would get released weeks after first appearing, where the artists could just upload them directly, no fuss, no labels etc. That just felt so much more hardcore/ravey going down to the record shop to pick up a white label that record signings, half-year release delays, and beatport....
 
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Ory

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what's the tune with the lyrics "I made a big mistake honey" and the Show Me Love-style synth? I think it might be by Cause & Affect but I haven't been able to find any info.
 

datwun

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what's the tune with the lyrics "I made a big mistake honey" and the Show Me Love-style synth? I think it might be by Cause & Affect but I haven't been able to find any info.

Yup! That one is C&A, absolutely love it. Was up on their Soundcloud but was taken down a few months ago, which I reckon must mean it got signed??
 

datwun

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Sorry to spam up the boards BUT (this is one of those sentences like "I'm not racist but" where the second part of the sentence undermines the first part of the sentence!!!)

New mix!
Done it as a promo for my first rave in Japan's 3rd city Nagoya!
Over half jackin , including my Chris Gresswell dubplate :D, but mixed up with lots of deep tech, a bit of funky, and the final half hour's a pretty full on trip into speed garage and bassline. Some technicals with tracks skipping and some "iffy mixing" at points, but overall pretty happy with it! All feedback very welcome!
 

datwun

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Raaaaah! Some new warpy danger from man like Dave Fogg!!
Seriously sick!!!!

Woops! not new, 9 months old lol. He just posted it on his facebook though. Don't remember anyone posting it?
 
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NATO

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Echo Corpsey's sentiment. That Dave Fogg tune was on his Marcus Nasty mix from last year. It felt flat for me then and still does now.

That Lorenzo tune is an absolute smasher though.
 
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