Esp

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going to ask a really dumb question here - does soulseek work for Mac? - I searched their forum but no results....

There's a program called ISoul for mac which is a bit buggy but does the job.
 

Trillhouse

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Chances are you may have read about this already..

This is the original loop, solely written entirely by myself back in October 2007.
http://soundcloud.com/reark/natalia-original

Sequence of events:

1. I wrote this loop back in October 2007, entirely by myself, posting it on myspace.
2. Zomby, with whom I was communicating, hears the loop and offers to collaborate to finish it. I agree and send him the original Reason song file + Rex file of the vocals.
3. Zomby posts the loop on his myspace without crediting me, I complain, he takes it down.
4. In the next months Zomby suggests where the track might get released. I continue to remind him that it's a collaboration.
5. Without my knowledge, a slightly revised version is aired by Mary Anne Hobbs on Radio 1, you can hear Zomby's revised drum variation from 1:06 -- 1:36. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDLXRtbeLg0 This is the only significant change he's made to the track. The rest is looping, and some slight editing of the vocal cuts.
6. The track gets released on 4AD in May 2011, I notice in August 2011. I complain first to Zomby with no effect, then to 4AD, to whom I send this loop plus an e-mail sent from me to Zomby with the original Reason song file from October 2007. 4AD accept my evidence and change credits to include my name.

Zomby has been vague in interviews when asked about the vocal sample. The singer is Natalia Ladygina (hence the name of the track), a Russian friend of mine. She is singing a cover of Irina Dubcova's song 'O nem'. I have other samples of her, so you can expect to hear more of her in the future.

Thanks to all those who have supported me in this dispute, and all those who were just curious and asked.

It's not like it's the first time either

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Aww Nein

Wild Palms
'I curated your future lets be honest'

hes a curator... good or bad, its where the money is.

to be honest i think sampling the youtube video is a good idea (if credited), but the reason file rip=off from someone youre corresponding with is pretty slimey, i dunno... grey areas

i mean no harm in just admitting what your doing, instead of injecting your ego into everything.
 

outraygeous

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cant see the big fuss about someone taking someone elses tune and claiming it for their own?

apparently it all happened years ago

but as we all know with Zomby the story might not be 100% true.

And the guy has been credited for his work so perhaps is like an uncleared sample but if the sampler was the best troll of modern times
 

Joey Joe-Joe Jr. Shabadoo

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apparently it all happened years ago

but as we all know with Zomby the story might not be 100% true.

And the guy has been credited for his work so perhaps is like an uncleared sample but if the sampler was the best troll of modern times

i dont think there's much debate about what happened, you can hear for yourself on the soundcloud link. he was only credited for his work after sending evidence to 4AD after the album was released
 

rrrivero

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I think Zomby and Wiley are related

or something
Just read through the whole debacle, definitely related.

Has anybody else listened through the rest of the tunes on the reark soundcloud? What form of magic is at play here that allowed him to produce Natalia's Song as well as the rest of the crap on there? Can't help but have some doubts about all of this. Then again after listening to Lil Silva's old grime instrumentals I've come to the conclusion that anything's possible
 

Trillhouse

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there's cheeky sampling then there's putting someone else's tune on your album..............
Yer, Natalia's Song was arguably the biggest track on his album and he straight stole it.

Sampling some guy off youtube is clever 'curating', if you want to call it that, but contacting some guy on Myspace then just stealing his tune is just shiesty.
 
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Joey Joe-Joe Jr. Shabadoo

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Just read through the whole debacle, definitely related.

Has anybody else listened through the rest of the tunes on the reark soundcloud? What form of magic is at play here that allowed him to produce Natalia's Song as well as the rest of the crap on there? Can't help but have some doubts about all of this. Then again after listening to Lil Silva's old grime instrumentals I've come to the conclusion that anything's possible

'house track' is quite nice. most of them are awful yeah, but you can hear touches of natalias song in some of them. i'd say it sounds more like a Reark production than a Zomby production anyway
 
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