Olympic Bullshit

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I'll take that overly florid guff a thousand times over the perverse and sour-faced delight I can imagine many here taking had the whole thing been a catastrophe.

Wow. Did you buy shares in LOCOG or something?

Long live the Queen and Lord Coe!
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
*rest of Dissensus forms a ring around crackerjack and baboon, chanting "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!....."*
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
:) (no emoticon for perverse and sour-faced delight, alas)

anyway, pointless continuing the conversation; it's become like arguing with someone about one's 'patriotic responsibility' on the Daily Mail forum.

Point is, in brief: Johnson and Cameron emerge with a massive PR boost as the Olympics have been judged a success. If it had fucked up in some way, that PR boost wouldn't have been so evident, and that would be a good thing. The reality is that Britain is pretty grim for a lot of people at the mo', and three weeks of rowing doesn't change that in the slightest.
 
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hucks

Your Message Here
Point is, in brief: Johnson and Cameron emerge with a massive PR boost as the Olympics have been judged a success. If it had fucked up in some way, that PR boost wouldn't have been so evident, and that would be a good thing. The reality is that Britain is pretty grim for a lot of people at the mo', and three weeks of rowing doesn't change that in the slightest.

Johnson maybe (but so what? He's in office for the next 4 years whatever) but Cameron's widely perceived to have had a shocker. Fucking up on school sports provision, trying to bury the collapse of the coalition on the day Farah, Ennis and Rutherford won gold, looking like a twat in his tracksuit...

And praying for the Olympics to fuck up so Cameron can't get a bounce in the polls especially when he's going to fuck up everywhere else anyway (for another time, but he's terrible, worst-PM-ever material) seems the wrong way round to me.

Edit: Which isn't to say that people aren't having a terrible time of it at the mo, that point's fully taken
 
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craner

Beast of Burden
Not to say, mind, that Lewis is actually wrong about Bolt or the Jamaicans. Victor Conte is convinced there's something fishy about it, and is saying so publicly. The question is: to what extent, and what is the nature of it. You can't simply complain about "performance enhancing" techniques or supplements or even, in some cases, drugs, when these range from diets to painkillers. Ultimately shades over to having testorerone cream smeared over your buttocks months before meetings, and such things, and if you have evasive, compromised or basically non-existant anti-doping programmes, as in the U.S. and Jamaica, then use and abuse is inevitable, maybe necessary.

It's hard to believe that Allyson Felix would get into something like this and, ultimately, the extreme steroids etc are banned because they are physically dangerous and to use and culturally seedy. But synthetic supplements, diets and training techniques are so advanced these days, the boundaries and definitions do blur a bit.

If you let everybody cheat, there would be a natural limit because people would die more often, and look disfigured.
 

Bangpuss

Well-known member
Then there's 'gene doping', which is what that 15-year-old fish girl is being accused of. It wouldn't surprise me if a country like China was using genetic modifications to build world-beating athletes.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
If you let everybody cheat, there would be a natural limit because people would die more often, and look disfigured.

It struck me a while ago that the natural solution would be to legalize everything, and have a sort of 'constructor's championship' in athletics like they do in Formula 1. Like, you'd have one guy representing GSK, another running or swimming or whatever for AstraZeneca, another for Monsanto, and so on. You'd occasionally have runners exploding in a fleshy mist as they crossed the finish line but that would just add to the spectator appeal.
 
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Dr Awesome

Techsteppin'
It struck me a while ago that the natural solution would be to legalize everything, and have a sort of 'constructor's championship' in athletics like they do in Formula 1. Like, you'd have one guy representing GSK, another for AstraZeneca, another for Monsanto, and so on. You'd occasionally have runners exploding in a fleshy mist as they crossed the finish line but that would just add to the spectator appeal.

I've been a supporter of the "open" class for some time.
I think the only real question for it should be how much bio-mechanical fuckery you'd be allowed to have.
It'd make for a better spectacle... 5 seconds to run 100 meters, 30 min marathons...
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Then there's 'gene doping', which is what that 15-year-old fish girl is being accused of.

I *knew* it!

"Dun't believe me, hey? Hey, heh, heh - then jest tell me, young feller, why Cap'n Obed an' twenty odd other folks used to row aout to Devil Reef in the dead o' night an' chant things so laoud ye cud hear 'em all over taown when the wind was right? Tell me that, hey? An' tell me why Obed was allus droppin' heavy things daown into the deep water t'other side o' the reef whar the bottom shoots daown like a cliff lower'n ye kin saound? Tell me what he done with that funny-shaped lead thingumajig as Walakea give him? Hey, boy? An' what did they all haowl on May-Eve, an, agin the next Hallowe'en? An' why'd the new church parsons - fellers as used to he sailors - wear them queer robes an' cover their-selves with them gold-like things Obed brung? Hey?"


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viktorvaughn

Well-known member
It struck me a while ago that the natural solution would be to legalize everything, and have a sort of 'constructor's championship' in athletics like they do in Formula 1. Like, you'd have one guy representing GSK, another for AstraZeneca, another for Monsanto, and so on. You'd occasionally have runners exploding in a fleshy mist as they crossed the finish line but that would just add to the spectator appeal.

Sounds like a Ballard short story of some sort.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Sounds like a Ballard short story of some sort.

I think I keep having ideas that sound like a Ballard short story of some sort. I recently got a copy of The Atrocity Exhibition and got about a third of the way in before I gave it up as terminally pretentious and boring. I'm sure he's got other better stuff but from my exposure so far I can't really see what all the fuss is about.

Maybe this just means I'm terminally pretentious and boring?
 

you

Well-known member
I read crash over two nights with a large bottle of vodka when I was 18, a wonderful experience!
 
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