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bare BARE BONES
I know what you mean but it's kind of funny that House is seen as forwards and Funky backwards
 

doom

Public Housing
This feels more like Funky than House.

Because of the MCing? The tunes sound almost as far from Funky as any House can get to me. Not even any of the stuff like 'Gotham' or 'Such a Rush' & its loads of dubs as well right? Barely a garij hat, afro drum sample or syncopated snare, but loads of one note basslines, techy synths, roland drum box sounds & reverb.

Perch barely drops a bar as well tho, its just straight hosting, he's interacting with listeners, spruiking raves & bigging up his mates... radio business.
 

doom

Public Housing
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Thanks for posting this!

If anyone can ID the vocal / tune that comes in around 18mins? 'i don't know what, to do, without you' 'i can't, i just can't, make it without you'

disco pews make me wanna go on a codeine bender..
 

continuum

smugpolice
Perch barely drops a bar as well tho, its just straight hosting, he's interacting with listeners, spruiking raves & bigging up his mates... radio business.

It is just hosting but it feels loud and overbearing and more constant with this MC than say Frost. One more step and we're back into Grime.
 

trilliam

Well-known member
Thanks for posting this!

If anyone can ID the vocal / tune that comes in around 18mins? 'i don't know what, to do, without you' 'i can't, i just can't, make it without you'

disco pews make me wanna go on a codeine bender..

its a remix of art department - without you
 

doom

Public Housing
Thanks trilliam, much appreciated.

@continuum

yeah, I see what you mean about the tempo / pitched up thing. I was half cut when I listened to it & didn't really notice. I hope its not a case of pitching tunes up to match the dubs, I really love the low 120bpms of deep/tech & would hate for it to fall into that speed trap. More than Funky or UKG or H&B or whatever, deep/tech really loses more & more of the vibe the closer it gets to 130.

I guess I have a pretty high tolerance for mcs over house beats... as long as they stay out of the recording studio :rolleyes:
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
re: the tempo thing my big homie Brackles played that 'Memories' tune by Nightshift on his show t'other day, pitched right up - its hard to tell cos when you're used to a tune at a certain tempo it never sounds right much faster but I don't think it sounded as good.

I'll have to berate him about this at some point.
 

banshee

Well-known member
enjoying this mix by l&a music, who made that sick tune towards the end of the november ggb mix. his other productions are great too &g=bb">&g=bb" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%%"> ">
 

datwun

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Agree for the most part re: the speed thing - this stuff just sounds nice and dark when it's in the low 120s, really chuggy and cool.

But I reckon it depends on the track too, and some tracks kind of work in different ways at different speeds. Wet Dollars sounds fine pitched way up. There are a couple of basically-jackin tracks by Louie Anderson which actually sound a bit painful at their native 120 but great pitched up to 126-8.

More than the speed of the tracks, I feel their aren't enough DJs in the scene who pay attention to phasing, and everyone mixes too quickly, but apart from Arun Verone, this isn't particularly in a grimey energetic sort of way. When you get the right combo of tracks, this stuff sounsd great kept in the mix for one or two minutes, loads of polyrhythms, little bleep and bloops setting each other off, little vocal snatches which sound great stolen from one track and layed on another.

Probably a sign of the producers-as-DJs thing, being sick at one doesn't make you sick at the other!

Still better than jackin though, where the avergae standard of DJing, even among the big dons is pretty piss poor

EDIT: Though would be very happy if anyone wanted to proove me wrong with examples of quality deep tech mixing!
 

datwun

Well-known member
Yeah, he's sick. Him, Arun Verone and Majesty I'd say are the best technical DJs on the scene.

Radford's mixing is competent but not stellar. Love his radio voice though, more character than half of the Rinse FM roaster put together.
 

datwun

Well-known member
The phasing of tracks - intros, builds, drops etc. Lining tracks up so that one bassline comes in as another goes out, or just in a way where it actually feels you're blending tracks rather than just playing them in sequence in time.

TBH it's basic shit which is insanely effective on the dancefloor and is common in a lot of my favorite mixes, but absenct from far too much DJing...
 

datwun

Well-known member
lol that would be one of them dyslexic moments :S

It is basically one of the fundamentals of mixing, and everyone does it on one scale or another, even if that's just making sure you've counted 8 bars before bring a track in. The difference is, if you're not gonna be chopping things up, wheeling tracks, really fast grimey DJing - which obviously has it's own pleasures - then I feel you should be making the time you've got two tracks playing together count.
 
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