brand vs paxman
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craner
Beast of Burden
Welsh rugby players couldn't even cope with the Latin, let alone queue up for injections. (Apart from Dr. Jamie Roberts, now a Parisian sophisticate, driving around on his scooter, eating croissants with a foppish neck-scarf swathed beneath his Dan Dare chin.)
Another reason I like Phillips is that he ditched Duffy for the golden promise of French tarts, which is both reprensible and impressive. Now he is hurt and out of a contract he is going to be an animal in the Autumn season. I can't wait.
It's a shame we're not facing the Black Death in this state, with the Welsh clubs in crisis and Lions fame pumping through the arteries. It will be a Red Mist for anybody brave enough to enter Cardiff.
Another reason I like Phillips is that he ditched Duffy for the golden promise of French tarts, which is both reprensible and impressive. Now he is hurt and out of a contract he is going to be an animal in the Autumn season. I can't wait.
It's a shame we're not facing the Black Death in this state, with the Welsh clubs in crisis and Lions fame pumping through the arteries. It will be a Red Mist for anybody brave enough to enter Cardiff.
craner
Beast of Burden
Just to re-cap for those who wonder what we are talking about.
luka
Well-known member
In response to said article;
Not because A, B, C, D not because POLITICS, ECONOMICS, CULTURE, TECHNOLOGY.
A, B, C, D are not the cause.
A, B, C, D are the grass which makes wind visible.
Which way is the wind blowing? Watch the grass.
Happens because happening is what happens. Do I make myself clear? Below the surface manifestations, a current which can be seen in all things it moves through.
this is the basis for all divination
yours
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Not because A, B, C, D not because POLITICS, ECONOMICS, CULTURE, TECHNOLOGY.
A, B, C, D are not the cause.
A, B, C, D are the grass which makes wind visible.
Which way is the wind blowing? Watch the grass.
Happens because happening is what happens. Do I make myself clear? Below the surface manifestations, a current which can be seen in all things it moves through.
this is the basis for all divination
yours
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The Spectator
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London SW1H 9HP
shiels
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can I read Kpunk's take on it anywhere?
Luka's first few posts put this as eloquently and reliably as I have come to expect from him. He has always recognized the spirit and taste of a thing being worth more than the quabble and that's why he remains important here long after it's had its day. Cheers luka.
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Sectionfive
bandwagon house
search 'vampire castle' on twitter lol
Does he really live in Loughborough these days?
I'm watching it again, it still stands up. There's precedent for this in Italy, to some degree, with Beppe Grillo and his Five Star party. But in addition to this, advocating that people express their political will by not voting has an interesting consequence that the large constituency that won't vote at the next election, especially if it significantly increases in 2015 as a result of this, could be framed as an explicit vote for Brand or whatever movement develops from this interview.
Even more effective would be a Parallel Election or Dissenter's Election on the same day as the next General Election, with single-use, unique ballot papers printed out by voters at home and posted into Alternatively Official ballot boxes located in pop-up polling stations on street corners and elsewhere. That's the sort of thing social networks were built to facilitate. Abolish the House of Lords and have a bicameral system based on a new House of Everyone with legislative power over the House of Commons. Part of this legislative power would be repeals of oppressive, prescriptive or discriminatory laws, part would be oversight of the tedious 'admin bod' laws MPs enjoy cranking out.
So I'm proposing the revolution would have the desired end state of reforming our democracy in such a way that representation of the entire population became institutionalised and given executive power in a way that leaves the sickening, self-serving theatre of present-day politics utterly impossible. Naturally, the Prime Minister would no longer be a jobbing, spectacularly compromised Fauntleroy like David Cameron but someone able to command the confidence of everyone.
Even more effective would be a Parallel Election or Dissenter's Election on the same day as the next General Election, with single-use, unique ballot papers printed out by voters at home and posted into Alternatively Official ballot boxes located in pop-up polling stations on street corners and elsewhere. That's the sort of thing social networks were built to facilitate. Abolish the House of Lords and have a bicameral system based on a new House of Everyone with legislative power over the House of Commons. Part of this legislative power would be repeals of oppressive, prescriptive or discriminatory laws, part would be oversight of the tedious 'admin bod' laws MPs enjoy cranking out.
So I'm proposing the revolution would have the desired end state of reforming our democracy in such a way that representation of the entire population became institutionalised and given executive power in a way that leaves the sickening, self-serving theatre of present-day politics utterly impossible. Naturally, the Prime Minister would no longer be a jobbing, spectacularly compromised Fauntleroy like David Cameron but someone able to command the confidence of everyone.
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Professor David Nutt was just on Newsnight criticising the irrationality of previous and current Government's drugs policy with a more avuncular and breezy than Russell Brand. It'll be on iPlayer soon, no doubt. Kirsty Wark was conducting the interview rather than Paxman this time, but she showed she can be just as misinformed as he.
He was invited on as he's just picked up a prize for "promoting science and evidence on a matter of public interest, despite facing difficulty and hostility in doing so."
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/04/drugs-legislation-david-nutt-john-maddox
He was invited on as he's just picked up a prize for "promoting science and evidence on a matter of public interest, despite facing difficulty and hostility in doing so."
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/04/drugs-legislation-david-nutt-john-maddox
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shiels
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from what i get there it looks like he caused a stir by accusing feminists of derailing the hype with ad hominem accusations of misogyny?
craner
Beast of Burden
He's started a project called 'Wounds of Class' as a result. It has a website. If you become his friend on Facebook you will be treated to tons of mini-essays on this subject daily.
On a related note, I just found out that Dan Hancox's literary agent is a woman I worked with and fancied like mad for years. Life is just like an Anthony Powell novel. These are my wounds of class.
On a related note, I just found out that Dan Hancox's literary agent is a woman I worked with and fancied like mad for years. Life is just like an Anthony Powell novel. These are my wounds of class.
craner
Beast of Burden
I don't believe that Brand really wants to be challenged seriously on his points, or if he's as smart as he thinks he is he shouldn't want to. He could be demolished quite quickly. Paxman is easy pickings these days -- he is lazy, complacent, visibly bored by his standing, and not intellectually agile or committed enough to interview properly. Most savvy and articulate politicians can confound or run around his bluff techniques by now as they are too common and not nearly acute enough. Even Bozza LOL LEGEND Johnson can rung rings around his carcass. This personal bankruptcy was clearly demonstrated by an abject performance on the Graham Norton show last week. Watching that painful wreck, it seemed quite obvious that the "serious" media establishment is too scared of not looking "cool" or "edgy" or "radical" to say anything more critical than, "Brand is wrong, but he made some good points." No, he didn't. He was talking bollocks. He had no good points to make about politics. His points, for what they were, barely amounted to points. They were slogans and platitudes. Considered without passion, they simply show that he isn't interested politics. Or, at least, he is only interested in politics on the level of aesthetics and utopias. But anyone hoping for a contemporary Soul of Man Under Socialism or News from Nowhere in his New Statesman essay was surely sorely dissappointed.
As it goes, I ussd to be blissfully indifferent to Brand, and considering that I loathe most British stand-up comics of his generation that is almost saying something positive. Then he started telling poor people not to vote, and I realised he was a cunt.
Edit: also, I reckon that if Brand was effectively challenged in this way then he would, himself, resort to the ad hominem faster than a ferret up Billy Mackenzie's leg.
As it goes, I ussd to be blissfully indifferent to Brand, and considering that I loathe most British stand-up comics of his generation that is almost saying something positive. Then he started telling poor people not to vote, and I realised he was a cunt.
Edit: also, I reckon that if Brand was effectively challenged in this way then he would, himself, resort to the ad hominem faster than a ferret up Billy Mackenzie's leg.
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