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he did all those razor x bitw with the bug didn't he... they were strong when they came out. i'm going to interview a guy who he's worked with, an MC, next week, for this sort of local history project i'm involved in
 
john eden

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catalog said:
he did all those razor x bitw with the bug didn't he... they were strong when they came out. i'm going to interview a guy who he's worked with, an MC, next week, for this sort of local history project i'm involved in
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That sounds cool!

Yeah I think Kevin and the Rootsman got together during the Macro Dub Infection comps he was putting out.

Kinda interesting figure John - overlap with Iration Steppas early on (they did a mix of the Koyanisqatsi tune he did) but then he want to be quite a credible dancehall deejay who did lots of duplate special sessions with big names. I have a clash recording somewhere where is taking on some Italian soundsystem and accuses them of having spliced dubplates, which is serious business.
 
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I like a fair amount of his releases, and think other stuff is interesting but not worth buying. but I think a large part of his popularity in underground circles grew out of the excellent branding. the name, the cd packaging, the scarcity of limited edition pressings, the lack of press interviews, the inference of radical ideology. in short, the mystery.

for a guy depicted as a recluse with nominal communication skills, he was either brilliant at his own branding or completely stumbled into it.
 
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It's interesting comparing all these anecdotes about him not being able to talk about anything but his music/politics with the ones from JD Twitch and Jill Mingo in that Quietus piece where they say he didn't really talk about politics at all and instead wanted to hear about club culture.
 
john eden

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@catalog there's an interesting interview with John Bolloten in Sound Mag issue 4 where he talks about the Bradford reggae and bleep scene in the 80s and 90s amongst other stuff. A few typos though lol.

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ha. If anything, it would have served mossads interests to keep him alive if this ludicrous bullshit scenario was even true. Israel funded the embrio of hamas against the PLO in the 70s. Something Brynn, and Zhao (for that matter) seemingly like to forget.
 
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john eden said:
@catalog there's an interesting interview with John Bolloten in Sound Mag issue 4 where he talks about the Bradford reggae and bleep scene in the 80s and 90s amongst other stuff. A few typos though lol.

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Not really the right place but I ended up buying a year long sub to that mag cos it seems like they are doing something worthwhile in the area.

They just sent this blog with a shaka vs iration steppas session, with thed suggestion that shaka shortly after stopped doing clashes cos iration were so good

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This is also a good video from 1989. Check the hip hop type controller that mark iration is carrying, plus some of the fashion, it looks current. The guy on stage with bum bag round his shoulders and day glo tracksuit.

 
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I like Simon crabs comment in that quietus article

"It sounds to me like a darker version of Enya"
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You missed the best bit of that comment. + Crab is a legend, although I'm sure zhao will claim that Brynn was not pro-thatcher and on the left...

I don't think Bryn was ever ‘political’ – he didn’t have a political theory. He just reacted to events. When I knew him he hadn’t yet “got into” Islamic stuff. He was, I guess, in a similar space to a lot of industrial artists – ambiguous images of ‘oppression’, newspaper headlines, cut-ups, etc. I suspect he was motivated to shock and annoy people more than any compassion for people, and he used imagery accordingly – much in the same way as say, Whitehouse and Throbbing Gristle did but maybe less extreme. I think he got into “Islamic stuff” just because it was in the news at the time. He was naturally Conservative and quite right wing. Very anti-communist – or what he understood as ‘communism’ – and an admirer of Thatcher, which was very different to everyone else in the North West at the time. But again, I suspect a lot of this was just to be contrary.
"He was extremely anxious when we got him to play at the V2 in Holland as part of the Recloose label showcase. He went into a complete meltdown at the gig. We had to play with him onstage and jam along to something we'd never heard before. Went quite well, I thought, but he was extremely pissed off afterwards – I think he thought we'd done it to humiliate him. Bryn was obsessed with the idea that we had ripped him off somehow – and I think he did this to other people as well – which is laughable. We hardly sold any Eg Oblique Graph at all, I ended up giving them away – and very few of the Buddhist On Fire LP. Nowhere near enough to cover costs. He was SURE that we'd pressed thousands of copies and sold them on the sly. I tried to reason with him for a while but eventually gave up. We never made up. It wasn’t worth the effort.
"How can I say it politely? There's nothing 'Arabic' about Muslimgauze's music apart from the fact that he nicked Arabic sounding samples. Arabic music is much, much more complex in harmonic and rhythmic structure. I think what I dislike about Muslimgauze is the loop-based sample formula. I find it lazy, boring and unimaginative – mood music.
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