I LOVE MUSIC LOL

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Give us all your cocaine for free and we'll spare your life (for now) and convince you to be part of death, the destroyer of worlds.
 

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I usually just throw on whatever I was listening to last, but notably it's not for sexual purposes so much as sound-blanketing. Have found that Andrew Weatherall's "Force Tracks" compilation really works nicely though, as did Orbital's "Are We Here?" (notably *not* preceded by the gabba) track) one time. Sasha & Digweed music sounds best at times like this too. Lil' Kim's "How Many Licks" always seems like a good idea, but invariably results in collapsing with laughter.
― Tim, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Lol oh dear, that weatherall comp is great, lil kim is great, but orbital? Jesus christ.
 

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temendoid i don't get what you are saying. is that some kind of unconscious freudian racism? am i afraid of BLACK GUYS FUCKING WHITE WOMEN too? maybe not anymore cuz i have faced this fear head on w/the help of porn.
― artdamages, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
 

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I mean, given that we all agree that indie bands such as Battles, Vampire Weekend, CocoRosie, etc do have some elements of black music, I think the question he's really pussyfooting around with this whole piece is more "Why do we STILL have boring, revisionist, funkless Leave It Beaver bullshit bands like Arcade Fire and Band Of Horses and Clap Your Hands and Hold Steady when everyone has such easy access to such diverse music?"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:28 (thirteen years ago)
 

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mount kimbie - crooks & lovers
baths - cerulean
james blake - cmyk
spirituals - s/t
four tet - there is love in you
and a bunch of assorted l.a.-ish beat tracks scavenged from podcasts and stuff (brainfeeder crew, this two fingers track i just heard, etc.)
this is the stuff that's exciting for me, the dubstep that doesn't really sound like dubstep and post-post-post dilla beats.
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 17:31 (eleven years ago)
 

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Rock was originally a mixture of "black" and "white" music. A genius one, actually (at least after The Beatles had increased the amount of melodic/harmonic elements compared to 50s rock). Then, why is it that the "white" elements should suddenly be removed?
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:22 (eighteen years ago)
 

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I love a lot of 60s Motown stuff, and 70s Stevie Wonder made some of my all-time favourite albums. A lot of melodic stuff there. I also like most of what Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie did in the 80s. It isn't until recently that black acts seem to be almost universially rejecting melody (at least originally composed melodies), but at least in Britain there have been great exceptions such as Seal and Tasmin Archer.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Stevie was one I was thinking of in particular. But Stevie and Smokey and Dozier and all those guys didn't need the Beatles to tell them how to write a melody, for fuckssake.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:34 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh, sweetie... you've never heard a Motown record, have you? I'm so sorry.
Beatles arrived in late 1962 (not really melodic until early 1963 though). By then, Motown did exist, but it didn't really become truly melodic until around "Where Did Our Love Go" in 1964.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:35 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
But Stevie and Smokey and Dozier and all those guys didn't need the Beatles to tell them how to write a melody, for fuckssake.
They probably needed George Gershwin and Cole Porter though.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:35 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
 
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Sorry, this one is just for fun: if Chuck Berry material and 12-bar blues tracks are all the same song, and the Beatles made write-your-own-songs a rule, what were the Beatles thinking when they did "Yr Blues," "Why Don't We Do It in the Road," "Back in the U.S.S.R.," or "Revolution?"
The Beatles were thinking "back to our roots" and they made some of the worst songs they ever composed. I absolutely hate all of those tracks you mentioned there. Add the awful "Come Together" too.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:24 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Most?? A fair percentage but nowhere near "most." Again, you simply ignore what you want to: Motown, Stax, neo-doowop, the Curtis Mayfield school -- oh, but I forgot, those weren't really songs!!
I said during the first 2-3 years of the 60s. Motown and Stax didn't have a lot of hits until mid-decade.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:25 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Interesting, Geir -- I wonder why the Beatles thought their "roots" lay in rock'n'roll and not, you know, Brahms!
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:25 (eighteen years ago)
 

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What is it with Norwegians having absolutely no opinions of any worth whatsoever? If Anglos are caricature German, then Norwegians are some ungodly hydra-headed caricature of the French and Swedish.

@chava does Denmark have a healthy brutal rivalry with Norway?

I actually learnt it from a lecture by Anne Danielsen, a Norwegian musicologist who is an expert in African American music. As I only followed lectures, and didn't study that topic, I didn't buy any of the litterature where she had it from, but it is definitely the case. "Dance" is a well-known thing in African cultures, while the idea of "music", as separated from dancing, was imported after imperialism.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:39 (eighteen years ago)
 

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Why do I get the feeling that Geir's former professors would not necessarily appreciate being cited in this context?
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:44 (eighteen years ago)


Geir - (and I've asked you this question three times already, and you've dodged it everytime) - if what them crazy African with their drums and such are doing isn't music what art form is it exactly - quilting?
― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:54 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Geir, stop playing dumb. I know you're smarter than this.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:54 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Geir - (and I've asked you this question three times already, and you've dodged it everytime) - if what them crazy African with their drums and such are doing isn't music what art form is it exactly - quilting?
It isn't related to any Western art forms at all.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:55 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
answer my question - what art form is it?
― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:56 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
unless you're saying something must have western roots to be an art form
― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:57 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
musik®
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:58 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
answer my question - what art form is it?
There is no English word for that art form.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

🤣🤣🤣🤣 zhao should meet this guy. They'll go mad together like a house on fire.
 
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"if what them crazy African with their drums and such are doing" is meme material

Speaking of which:
"Classical" music died around 1900. What has been done after that isn't music. The true classical music if the 20th century was composed by Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, Cole Porter, George Gerswhin etc.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

Were you listening to Mahler on spotify a few weeks ago? You're cancelled by the very beatles devotees you sought to defend. No Stravinsky either corpse! I know, Petrushka is one of my favourites as well, proper eurasian grandiosity. But Geir has spoken.
 
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