Jeremy Corbyn

[Mr. Tea]

Yeah if you think back to Miliband there was no alternative to austerity on the table for the mainstream parties.

I remember it well. An electoral failure (as well as an all-round shit idea) because it naturally repelled left-wing voters and failed to attract enough right-wing voters to make up for it, because why would they vote for "austerity lite" when they could get the full-fat Tory version?

 

[john eden]

It's worth remembering this as Sir Keir's Labour frantically triangulates itself into a new position in readiness for the post-COVID recession.

 

[luka]

corbyn=greatest ever englishman https://electronicintifada.net/blog...s-win-damages-over-labour-anti-semitism-libel

 

[luka]

the zionists still taking their revenge on corbyn then

 

[Mr. Tea]

Depends to what extent you feel like giving the benefit of the doubt. To share an interview with someone you describe as "an absolute diamond" and then to follow up with "it wasn’t intended to be an endorsement of all aspects of the article" has a whiff of the reverse-ferret about it.

 

[DannyL]

the zionists still taking their revenge on corbyn then

 

[luka]

blurred lines there i think. when it comes to the security state in particular i think it's very different

 

[john eden]

The EDL used to fly the Israeli flag so they must be the good guys, right?

That Maxine Peake aside about the cops was weird and unnecessary though.

 

[DannyL]

blurred lines there i think. when it comes to the security state in particular i think it's very different

This is an interesting thread about what was likely shared between security forces:

 

[luka]

the basic idea is that tactics and technology developed to subjugate civilian populations in the occupied territories (and in eg Falluja etc) is then used in domestic policing in the states and here.

 

[luka]

tactics and technology and i suppose in a general way an attitude towards the policed population.

 

[john eden]

the basic idea is that tactics and technology developed to subjugate civilian populations in the occupied territories (and in eg Falluja etc) is then used in domestic policing in the states and here.

Which is true. But clumsily used by Peake.

 

[DannyL]

And yet another thread about the report that this is based on:

 

[john eden]

Sometimes it is better to just say ACAB.

 

[pattycakes_]

All craners are beautiful? Awww

 

[luka]

maybe it was clumsy. i havent read it and dont intend to.

 

[Mr. Tea]

the basic idea is that tactics and technology developed to subjugate civilian populations in the occupied territories (and in eg Falluja etc) is then used in domestic policing in the states and here.

Right, but there's more than a "basic idea" in that interview. There's a specific claim that Israeli cops taught American cops a new way to kill unarmed people.

 

[john eden]

Right, but there's more than a "basic idea" in that interview. There's a specific claim that Israeli cops taught American cops a new way to kill unarmed people.

Like they would need help with that. From Jews.

 

[droid]

And yet another thread about the report that this is based on:

I guess thats all settled then.

How the US and Israel exchange tactics in violence and control

Two decades of Israeli-US police cooperation includes training in racial profiling and violent suppression of protests.

www.aljazeera.com

Israeli forces trained cops in ‘restraint techniques’ at Minneapolis conference

Officers from the U.S. police force responsible for the killing of George Floyd received training in restraint techniques and anti-terror tactics from Israeli law enforcement officers.

www.peoplesworld.org

George Floyd killing highlights issue of US police training in Israel

The ADL sponsors trainings of US law enforcement officials in Israel, even as it says George Floyd murder exposes “systemic racism” in the U.S.

mondoweiss.net

Joint US-Israel Police & Law Enforcement Training

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

U.S. Police are Being Trained by Israel—And Communities of Color Are Paying the Price

In recent years, Georgia has experienced troubling trends in fatal police shootings. As this has unfolded, the state continues to pursue a “police exchange” program with the state of Israel.

progressive.org

US police departments under pressure to end training programmes with Israel

Two decades of Israeli-US police cooperation includes training in racial profiling, counter terrorism and suppressing protests

www.middleeasteye.net

Israel Security Forces Are Training American Cops Despite History of Rights Abuses

Police training in Israel organized by lobby groups, like the ADL, introduce U.S. cops to militarized security forces that abuse Palestinians' rights.

theintercept.com

 

[Mr. Tea]

Like they would need help with that. From Jews.

I'm not sure I get you. Nobody here is defending police brutality, are they?