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sonic innovations may coincide with cultural-ideological-whatever but they stand apart
 

trza

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Is there a word for all these songs that sound the same with videos with choreographed dancers?
"Lean On" is a song recorded by American EDM group Major Lazer and French producer DJ Snake. It is a moombahton, dancehall and electronic song being also described as a house music ballad
 

sadmanbarty

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Is there a word for all these songs that sound the same with videos with choreographed dancers?


The only other one I've heard which is similar is Jack U's 'Where Are You Now'. Both these songs are big favourites of mine this year, so would be grateful for other similar recommendations.

They both use melodic vocals (as opposed to rap or spoken word), plucky synth sounds, 808's and 'vocal science'. They are spacious, no synths carpet bombing the frequency spectrum like other EDM and have a warm sound palette; nothing other then the 808's are particularly shrill.

Definitely could be a genre in it's own right, but not enough has been produced to warrant a name just yet. I hope there is more to come though.
 

rubberdingyrapids

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did diplo do the bieber 'sorry' song too? cos that fits the same sort of sound.

the drake hotline bling single could kinda fit too (and obv DRAM's cha cha from a while back too).
 

CrowleyHead

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did diplo do the bieber 'sorry' song too? cos that fits the same sort of sound.

the drake hotline bling single could kinda fit too (and obv DRAM's cha cha from a while back too).

The Bieber "Sorry" song is Skrillex, who just did the Jack U thing with Diplo, so Diplo probably had some leftover ideas from ol' Skrill face.
 

sadmanbarty

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The full bieber album:

http://unartiste.co/justin-bieber-purpose-stream-here/

Doesn't particularly expound on the singles, still impressive though. A couple of nods to Kygo-style Tropical House, a lot of deep house influences given a bit of a boost with trap/edm drums. Nice bits of vocal science, nice use of reverb. Samples Janet Jackson's funny how time flies which is always a bonus. I'd be glad if this type of sound dominates pop for a bit.
 

luka

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Unfortunately in '95 the 2 and 4 emphasis crept there way back into jungle, but the vast majority of '94 jungle doesn't have snare emphasis on both the 2 and 4. There's a lot of emphasis on the 2 and the offbeat of 3, which often goes on to the 1 of the next bar, the off beat of 2 and then the 4. So '94 Jungle is rhythmically more akin to Bossa Nova then funk and hip hop (the trasillo rhythms making their way from the rest of Latin America to Jamaican dancehall, hence why 'urban' London was using them).

I suppose this could then prove your point that Jungle rhythms weren't new, though I would argue that 1) Jungle rearranged the tresillo rhythms so as to be less predictably then Bossa Nova and 2) combining Bossa Nova accents with funk sensibilities (volume dynamics, ghost notes, etc.) created a rhythmic palette that was unique to Jungle.

I'll have a listen to the Bowie, sounds interesting.

Legendary dissensus beat counting contriversery starts here
 

luka

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No, this is.


This whole search for a brand new sound is a bit of a dead end IMO, better to look at how a genre like rap is developing and mutating beyond what people could conceive it could be fifteen years ago. Obviously a lot of people HATE what its become, but the same is true of jungle, grime, etc.

I wonder if a paradigm shift such as Reynolds longs for would be better sought in vocals than rhythms (talking dance music here) - perhaps that's nonsense but if you look at rap music and the use of auto tune this is where the genuinely mindbending and alien shifts are happening. And dance music, by and large, lacks vocals, and therefore lacks e.g. political depth. Which I'm sure Reynolds argues is what makes it more revolutionary in an anti rockist sense but I wonder if purely instrumental music has become by this stage fairly arid creatively.
 

mvuent

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well to be more exact, the first third is a heartwarming recollection of his childhood and formative experiences in the vibrantly multicultural city of london. that merely sets up the remaining two thirds, which are devoted to an incredibly detailed recounting of the experience he mentions in that post.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
This whole search for a brand new sound is a bit of a dead end IMO, better to look at how a genre like rap is developing and mutating beyond what people could conceive it could be fifteen years ago. Obviously a lot of people HATE what its become, but the same is true of jungle, grime, etc.

I wonder if a paradigm shift such as Reynolds longs for would be better sought in vocals than rhythms (talking dance music here) - perhaps that's nonsense but if you look at rap music and the use of auto tune this is where the genuinely mindbending and alien shifts are happening. And dance music, by and large, lacks vocals, and therefore lacks e.g. political depth. Which I'm sure Reynolds argues is what makes it more revolutionary in an anti rockist sense but I wonder if purely instrumental music has become by this stage fairly arid creatively.
Hang about, are you telling me i came up with the idea for neon dreams?
 

sus

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