Trump

[IdleRich]

I'm loving Greta trolling Trump by changing all his tweets to being about him... kicking a man when he's down basically.

 

[luka]

It's not really her it's her 'team'.

 

[IdleRich]

No it's definitely Greta

 

[Mr. Tea]

It's not really her it's her 'team'.

Why is it hard to believe it's her? She's not five or an imbecile.

 

[luka]

She doesn't handle social media she's just a puppet

 

[woops]

it's part of her new adult image

 

[Mr. Tea]

Well whoever is doing it, I really hope someone is showing them to Trump.

 

[Leo]

my new favorite phrase

Sean Wilentz, a professor of American history at Princeton University, said that Mr. Trump was the worst president in history, hands down.

“He’s in a whole other category in terms of the damage he’s done to the Republic,” said Mr. Wilentz, citing the radicalization of the Republican Party, the inept response to the pandemic and what he called “the brazen, almost psychedelic mendacity of the man.”

The Trump Presidency Is Now History. So How Will It Rank?

 

[IdleRich]

I think it was Dan Rather who said the other day something like

"At the moment Trump's presidency is viewed negatively as a disastrous period in the history of the republic, but in the future, when people come to look back in it with the benefit of distance then I think it will be seen as much worse.

 

[IdleRich]

Psychedelic mendacity is a great phrase.
I'll say it again, all politicians lie and are cynical and we were already living in a post-truth world where people allowed themselves a certain latitude to pick the facts they preferred... and yet even in this world and with those provisos, Trump launched an all out full frontal assault on truth, total war on the concept of truth and the quaint idea that what you say should have some relationship to the world it purports to describe - an attack that was unprecedented in its ambition, its scale and savagery. The aim to completely eradicate truth and anything like it, to utterly erase the idea itself from the world and then from memory. To bury it so deep it could never be found again. To sow salt into the ground where it lay. To end it.
And they came so close, but maybe, just maybe there are a few tiny bits of truth left that can grow back and matter once again. I dunno, I doubt it, but with Trump in power it had less than no chance.
And with truth gone everything loses its value. I was suffocating in that world, going mad with frustration. Now, maybe just maybe there is the hint of a thread to lead us from the labyrinth...

 

[luka]

Bush and Reagan among others were infinitely worse.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Bush and Reagan among others were infinitely worse.

Present your case.

 

[luka]

Wars. Drug dealing. Regime change. Bush knocked down the towers. Iran Contra etc

 

[luka]

Trump was quite bad but on the other hand the hamburger banquet was hilarious

 

[Mr. Tea]

Assuming you have one.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Wars. Drug dealing. Regime change. Bush knocked down the towers. Iran Contra etc

And Trump hasn't had "wars"?

 

[luka]

Just my opinion man, feel free to disagree

 

[luka]

Assuming you have one.

One what?

 

[Mr. Tea]

Never mind Bush and "the towers", let's stick to what's known, not what you'd like to be true. Reagan and Bush didn't openly court the support of Nazis or try to fix an election.

 

[Mr. Tea]

One what?

A case to make. As opposed to standard issue contrarianism or an ineffable "feeling in your bones".