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MANCHESTER

  • The Buzzcocks

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • The Fall

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Joy Division

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • The Duratti Column

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • John Cooper Clarke

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A Certain Ratio

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • New Order

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Smiths

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • The Stone Roses

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 808 State

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • A Guy Called Gerald

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Happy Mondays

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simply Red

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Take That

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Oasis

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I've never understood where Ian Curtis's weird robotic singing voice came from, but I've noticed it's quite similar to Morrissey's in some respects so maybe it's a Manc thing?

Ian curtis' voice is basically Jim Morrison meets Iggy Pop circa 'the idiot' innit (but less croony and more robotic like you say). Never thought he sounds much like moz though
 

luka

Well-known member
Ian curtis' voice is basically Jim Morrison meets Iggy Pop circa 'the idiot' innit (but less croony and more robotic like you say). Never thought he sounds much like moz though

and iggy revered and modelled himself on morrison as it goes
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
and iggy revered and modelled himself on morrison as it goes

Yeah and it shows. The doors have always been one of those chronically uncool bands that everyone at least secretly loves i reckon. They were obviously a big thing in liverpool at the time too with people like julian cope & echo & the bunnymen &etc.
 

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
I only ever saw him on that Oprah show about the PMRC...

It's more about documentaries about Rap and things like that. He became the seeming authority when the canon got mainstreamed into the "Rock Doc" phenomenon.

The Doors and Jamiroquai tying into the phenomenon of 'uncool yet secretly influential' bands is a nice weird thematic parallel, ngl. Glad to see my tangent had success.

Also, Lisa Stansfield has love in the US in the African-American community among a certain generational sub-unit. A family friend once said with impressive gravity that "Been Around The World" gave her the ever elusive 'ghetto pass'. Annie Lenox too. But back to the Mancs.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
and iggy revered and modelled himself on morrison as it goes

that's a big exaggeration wrapped around a kernel of truth. Please Kill Me has the bit where he mentions seeing The Doors play in front of a ton of U of M frat boys in Ann Arbor, and being into Morrison's semi-confrontational, or at least zero fucks given, stance toward the audience, while thinking the Doors themselves kind of sucked. Think u could definitely call Morrison an influence on Iggy, but definitely not a or the model.

also I'm sorry, but the Doors are fucking terrible, almost as bad as the Eagles. I mean, do you really want to defend stuff like L.A. Woman or Light My Fire or Love Me Two Times or etc? & Morrison has to be one of the worst lyricists ever. Endlessly puerile garbage masquerading as deep. So awful you can't even just ignore it like with many gtr bands.

Sorry but gotta nip this Doors revisionism in the bud.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Btw if u are at all interested in Iggy &/or the Stooges, u should definitely watch the recent Jarmusch documentary. P great. (no mentions of Morrison/the Doors as influence either, fwtw)
 

droid

Well-known member
Yeah, that Stooges/Iggy doc looks good alright.

Iggy transcended Morrison in pretty much every way, his peanut butter audience walking is perhaps the most iconic moment in all of rock.

The Doors get some kudos for Nico's the end though, I guess.
 

luka

Well-known member
The doors were a vastly better band than the stooges. I can't name a single stooges song off the top of my head. No classics. Iggy looked great but the music was just bratty lo fi rock.
 

luka

Well-known member
Simon Reynolds loves the doors. Julian cope loves the doors. Iggy pop loves the doors. Padraig is well known for his dreadful taste in music that's why he's generally not allowed to post in music threads. We keep him corralled in the politics section.
 

luka

Well-known member
I wish it was droid. The Doors put out a right load of shit but the good bits are good and also fun. Riders on the storm for example. I like it.
 
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