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Corpsey: The Collected and Unpublished Wankings of Jack Law (2004-2016)
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The turn away from miserablism, cold rationalism., whatever. seeing the value in hippies and joy is the interesting part. the basic point -if were not looking at socialists and thinking that looks like good craic im in then something is wrong and needs to change
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It's our fundamental point
Brings new meaning to left and right accelerationism.
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Thats a good point and i dont know. Also, im now thinking of all the times ive said IDGAF with genuine lack of interest. but its usually reactive and curt, not something I would take time to write on a forum for example
We all hate that.
I won't go over old ground as we all know who I take issue with on the British Left but there should have been more thought put into the elevation of certain personalities as the face of that brand of politics over the past decade.
We especially like you.
Couldn't think of a worse essay to use to discuss class.
Nothing on the peace treaties of westphalia for instance, and how the 17th century absolutist states mirrored the trajectory of the decomposition of the communist parties in europe after 1945, and how said communist parties paradoxically gained a much stronger foothold (in the 20th century) in underdeveloped agrarian semi-feudal regions of the world. Trotsky is a bore to read (and was an opportunist dictatorial bureaucrat) but he at least tries to be Lucid whereas these dilettantes merely humble brag with no experience of anything outside of their metropolitan confines. It's why they think the problem confronting revolution is domestication by capital when in fact the real problem confronting revolution is an incomplete reckoning with the origin of modern nation states. One cannot dismantle something without knowing what came before it. And this is why labour party socialites blow nothing but hot air because they vainly think they have it all worked out when this is impossible for any subjective militant or person to do, but must reveal itself through history. It's why they are blithely indifferent to eastern Europeans or ex-soviet people talking about the shortages they had under state planning - that's not real communism! OK but that's not the point. The point is to show how the soviet system was internally tending towards capitalism from a semi-agrarian base, and how its supposed revolutionary rhetoric chimed with that. Otherwise you merely get the revolutions are bad shtick of liberals, which they will always be to some, but every revolution has its specific bad context in specific bad times with specific bad elements. Noone would say that capitalisms revolutionising of production is inherently good.
This stuff is rhetoric, not history. And that's the problem. Rhetoric should enliven and stimulate people to be methodical and not pay deference to a mullah, not cause them to fart when the mullah permits them to. And that is all that these personalities on the British left have done. Nurtured a floc of pacified amorphous mostly white, mostly middle class, sheep.
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Oh bog off. Do you want a comfortable backside in parliament? Get a mercedes with self-heating seats instead, trust me, they are fucking nice, if I could afford one I'd get one just to sit in and blast choons.
What socialists (descendents of aristocrats and the public school tradition/oxbridge) think should be none of our concern. It was Mark's because he ultimately saw the working class as beneath him, always accusing people of being captives of this or that desire whilst pretending to be an objective decoder, ignoring that he wanted to propound an ideology himself, not chew through it.
as for hippies, it's all 50-60 years old for christ's sake. retromania is something, but this is maniacal levels of nostalgia!
I don't think there will be much time for joy when the state sends out operatives to assassinate people, do you? Once again k-punk is unable, completely unable, to think outside 1980s Britain and its cliche culture.
Changing the world first involves criticising not the enemy, who has a clearly defined opposition, but those who are closest to you, those LARPing at being anti-capitalists. And in fact, if one wanted to rescue any emancipatory content from Mark, it would mean backing Keir Starmer to the hilt, not alongside the opportunist socialists who will be imploring everyone to vote for him after having a breakdown because someone forgot to draw up the weekly meeting notes for their open relationships, no, precisely backing him to reduce the labour party vote to 12% so that a real working class movement arises. If people really wanted to be accelerationist, this would be what they advocate. But this would, of course, immediately nullify their careerist grift. I'm literally a communist who builds up a public profile on the BBC and considers Boris Johnson a proletarian. Sort it out.
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