K-Punk

[luka]

not really. i agree of course. theres times when you have to take something on becasue your conscience demands it. someone is just saying somthing that upsets you and outrages you. but generally trying to build together is the most fun way

 

[shiels]

You can read back over the thing you’re about to post and tweak how it’s framed so it’s open to conversation or as luka said the disquisition over the statement and the response shifts. I do think reactions
And gamification makes us tend towards statements and takes and being combative in a kind of detached aloof laddish last word way too

 

[shiels]

And when I say us I mean me

 

[luka]

i was a bit excited this morning and felt like we could do something fun like the old days but then all the mean girls ganged up on me and told me i was a cunt

 

[shiels]

This morning was great. because other life said they genuinely cared about something and feelings were hurt and we were like hold no you’ve got the wrong idea and showed that we cared too

 

[luka]

except they havent been back to see that we really do care and now theyre upset in a place all alone thinking we dont care but if they only came back and looked they could be happy again

 

[luka]

craners nemisis owen hatherley weighing in here

 

[john eden]

Yeah I quite like that Arbeitology lad.

Owen H has been very nice on the handful of occasions I met him. I think he has watched the trajectories of his fellow Bright Young Things of the noughties with increasing frustration and bitterness. I can't really blame him - he's done all the right things and put the hours in and yet K-Punk's legacy is vast and increasingly dodgy.

 

[luka]

hes always been nice to me too i should say. i like him. good boy.

 

[craner]

He's not my nemesis. I have no personal animus towards him. All my animus is impersonal.

 

[sufi]

@luka's scrawny elbow iirc , you were there too @eden i think

 

[craner]

That's The Holly Bush. Where was I?

 

[luka]

its the palm tree

 

[luka]

i cant remember where you were. I know Nina Power was there. You must have been there. I can't remember what the occassion was.

 

[craner]

That's what I meant.

 

[shiels]

What are the dodgy parts for you John? I don’t follow much beyond his own writing and people who were aligned like Jeremy Gilbert. But I guess you mean where some of the CCRU stuff leads?

That person at the end of the thread has a point. He was partly a hype man wasn’t he? Good at pulling in non-academic plebs like me. And maybe that brings resentment from other writers - where he’s exciting, they aren’t. And then I suppose if excitement is the priority it leaves you open to dodgy interpretations too

 

[luka]

i was saying to barty the other day that before i met the blogging crew id never heard anyone describe themselves as a communist. it still seems comical to me. it is comical. i think thats what John means by dodgy.

 

[luka]

its not a serious position is it. its a teenage stunt, like dressing like an emo.

 

[craner]

It was all more mundane.

When he was with CCRU he was on a group mission. It fell apart.

So he got a job in HE and got depressed. He started a blog. He started it with an aesthetic that he lived by. Therefore he wrote about stuff he liked and enjoyed facilitating a network of peers.

Once this reached a kind of critical mass, he got self-conscious and ambitious. His blog -- his life -- became a project. He therefore tried to put it all in order. He still wrote about things he liked, but instead of being an open-ended aesthetic, it all had to fit into a rigid system. He also stopped facilitating a network of peers and started collecting a group of acolytes. Some peers got purged.

 

[craner]

I think he palled up with OH during the peer/acolyte crossover period, which is when the picture above was taken. Judging by the Gary Numan hair, this must have been around the time of the infamous 'K' medallion.