K-Punk

suspended

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IMO it's modern pesticides that is at fault for mental health tanking. You get pesticides, and some refrigeration practices, you can scale up your population centers.
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
The Michael Jackson book (curated and edited by Mark, published by Zer0, with essays by such luminaries as Ian Penman and, er, me) was an interesting episode
 

thirdform

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The Michael Jackson book (curated and edited by Mark, published by Zer0, with essays by such luminaries as Ian Penman and, er, me) was an interesting episode

Gotta say this is why I have a lot more time for our resident @blissblogger here, agreements and disagreements all taken into account, than I could ever Mark, because he was just too indebted to the old school of music crit which focused on auteurs. I've never been so interested in that, the back room petty mafia squabbles are always more interesting than the product under a singular name.

Like, imagine trying to read jungle through Goldie without talking about Dego, Marc, the reinforced possee, the chancers, profiteers, people exploiting the welfare system, the lumpenness of it all. It doesn't give you an accurate picture. And I think Mark ultimately feared that criminality embedded in popular music.
 
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blissblogger

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Like, imagine trying to read jungle through Goldie without talking about Dego, Marc, the reinforced possee, the chancers, profiteers, people exploiting the welfare system, the lumpenness of it all. It doesn't give you an accurate picture.

both Mark and Kodwo respond to jungle etc etc almost entirely as recordings. Hence the relapse into auteurism (but curiously it's an auteurism without any interest in the biographic - the ornery uniqueness of a personality, the life circumstances that led to these odd misshapen beings called artists)

so for instance I can't recall either of them ever writing once about pirate radio, or MCs, or what goes on in clubs.... let alone the business side of the culture.

it's an utterly lopsided approach that produces fantastic dividends in terms of the vividness and intensity of the writing about those records and how they impact your mind and your body, the pictures they create, the train of associations. it's someone listening at home, rather than in the socially embedded context that the music is primarily created for - it's how they impact your body in isolation from all other the bodies

so yeah, not the full picture

but i don't think either would have said they were interested in "accuracy" - not in the least - ,they were interested in the fictions they could create using the sounds as raw material for their dreaming
 

WashYourHands

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Bit about k-punk in this Hatherley interview,

if you were working in Woolworths, or as an eel and pie shop proprietor

clearly the latter has always been highly prevalent
 

version

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Thought this was a joke, but it's actually a real book.

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