K-Punk

wektor

Well-known member
Justin Barton is quite an eerie fellow himself.
I'm pretty sure at Iklectik I saw him in person for the first time, yet he seemed so strangely familiar, as if I encountered him multiple times in the past, memories of those times buried deep in the subconscious now.
Who is he?
 

version

Well-known member
Zer0 are doing reissues of Ghosts of My Life and Capitalist Realism.

Capitalist Realism (New Edition)​

FOREWORD BY ZOE FISHER, INTRODUCTION BY ALEX NIVEN AND AFTERWORD BY TARIQ GODDARD.

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Ghosts of My Life​

THIS BRAND NEW EDITION FEATURES A NEW INTRODUCTION BY MATT COLQUHOUN AND NEW AFTERWORD BY SIMON REYNOLDS.

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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Happened across that thing about Mark in the LRB and have been reading this thread for an hour or so.

I'm way too thick/lazy to grapple with k punk and the discourse surrounding him. I feel like you need to have read not only a wide array of Theorists but also to have been embroiled in intricate blog beef circa 2005.

And whenever I think about k punk and I wonder if this is self-absorbed of me but I can't help but thinking he would have absolutely hated me.

But I do wish we could have seen him and third go toe to toe. I wouldn't have understood a word of it but it would be thrilling, like watching Godzilla fight Mothra.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Not completely unrelatedly, I've noticed that everyone and I mean everyone likes john eden.

both Mark and Kodwo respond to jungle etc etc almost entirely as recordings. Hence the relapse into auteurism (but curiously it's an auteurism without any interest in the biographic - the ornery uniqueness of a personality, the life circumstances that led to these odd misshapen beings called artists)

so for instance I can't recall either of them ever writing once about pirate radio, or MCs, or what goes on in clubs.... let alone the business side of the culture.

it's an utterly lopsided approach that produces fantastic dividends in terms of the vividness and intensity of the writing about those records and how they impact your mind and your body, the pictures they create, the train of associations. it's someone listening at home, rather than in the socially embedded context that the music is primarily created for - it's how they impact your body in isolation from all other the bodies
This is interesting cos this is how I remember listening to music in the pre-internet days.

Living out in the suburban sticks, listening to jungle (if I was), how could you really imagine the actual world producing and surrounding that music? You could only latch onto the music with your imagination – and the pirate radio/MCs etc. were hazy figures within that imagination.

Makes me wonder if this feeds into the fact that producers like Photek/Source Direct et al were from Suffolk/Hertfordshire, slightly distanced from the London rave culture. But then Goldie was in the thick of it and his music was just as imaginative and tailor-made for headphones, albeit with more of a rave energy.
 

blissblogger

Well-known member
Not completely unrelatedly, I've noticed that everyone and I mean everyone likes john eden.


This is interesting cos this is how I remember listening to music in the pre-internet days.

Living out in the suburban sticks, listening to jungle (if I was), how could you really imagine the actual world producing and surrounding that music? You could only latch onto the music with your imagination – and the pirate radio/MCs etc. were hazy figures within that imagination.

Makes me wonder if this feeds into the fact that producers like Photek/Source Direct et al were from Suffolk/Hertfordshire, slightly distanced from the London rave culture. But then Goldie was in the thick of it and his music was just as imaginative and tailor-made for headphones, albeit with more of a rave energy.

Herts is really not far from the action, especially St Albans - even if you don't have a car. I seem to remember Photek saying he used to go down the Labyrnth in Dalston.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Pop goes my theory!

I guess where I was coming from there is purely my personal experience of listening to photek/source direct et al on my own in my room, stoned, having visions of mythic rave caves.

But as I understand it nobody was actually playing source direct in raves, unless it was at blue note or speed
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Suppose the 'theory' can still stand if you think about how different psychological types might listen to music, even when they're in a social situation like a rave, if they're introverted types.

That's kind of how I listened to music in clubs, I preferred the lights all off, music overwhelmingly loud and bass heavy vs. the lights-up, sociable, people dancing in groups vibe of house nights.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
k-punk would have been no problem for me. but his protege had to have Luke babysit him, so meh.

Now if I could kindly withdraw myself from this thread, thank you.
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
Maybe not - maybe the Vampire's Castle is a maze of twisty passages, all alike. Why this is the Vampire's Castle, nor am I out of it.
 
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