Being 'into politics '

[craner]

There's a fine line between legitimate reporting and shameless career-building. I'm considering which side of the line this falls:

 

[luka]

whats the context i dont really understand. i havent watched the video though. will that help?

 

[craner]

There's a new little war flared up between Azerbaijan and Armenia so foreign correspondents are flocking to the action. The question now is, what is the purpose of the sort of thing above? Why exactly is she taking that risk? Did we learn anything from her being there, dodging bullets?

 

[craner]

It's not about her personally.

 

[luka]

yes i see now. those are good questions.

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

There's a fine line between legitimate reporting and shameless career-building. I'm considering which side of the line this falls:

She has the careworn demeanour of one who has trudged from the pyramid stage to the noodle bar and back, having failed to buy tofu ramen before Joss Stone comes on.

Bloody artillery cockwombles!

 

[luka]

wow i just watched it. this is an important artifact youve discovered craner, well done. its a marker of something.

 

[craner]

wow i just watched it. this is an important artifact youve discovered craner, well done. its a marker of something.

This sort of thing has been developing for decades now, and it got accelerated by the Arab Spring. But this just struck me as a particularity obvious and pointless example when I watched it earlier. It's not about the war, it's about themselves.

 

[RWY]

It's not about the war, it's about themselves.

Replace 'war' with 'politics' and this is exactly the same arguement which should be made against the likes of Owen Jones and Novara Media.

 

[craner]

Replace 'war' with 'politics' and this is exactly the same arguement which should be made against the likes of Owen Jones and Novara Media.

True, but this woman is risking a bullet for her ego.

 

[luka]

it's completely different to Owen Jones who is just part of the liberal left commetariat. this is more like tiktok in a warzone.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

It's not about the war, it's about themselves

do you think it's really so different from traditional self-serving war journalism? if so, how?

legit question, not rhetorical

obv the technology is different, and that's a particularly obnoxious example, but do you think it's qualitatively worse than yr typical careerism?

i.e. the careerist/danger junkie war correspondent is a basically a stock character

 

[craner]

do you think it's really so different from traditional self-serving war journalism? if so, how?

legit question, not rhetorical

obv the technology is different, and that's a particularly obnoxious example, but do you think it's qualitatively worse than yr typical careerism?

i.e. the careerist/danger junkie war correspondent is a basically a stock character

It's a good question. I don't know. Maybe it's simply the sheer volume and numbers, as well as the technology and approach, that is different rather than the fundamental role and human motivation.

 

[luka]

it's partly the way internet makes everyone produce their own content as if they were proferssionals, even war reporters

 

[luka]

lends it a comic value. i was always against bloggers trying to write content like what you get in magaszines for this reason. its inhnerently absurd

 

[craner]

lends it a comic value. i was always against bloggers trying to write content like what you get in magaszines for this reason. its inhnerently absurd

Now you're just having a go at me again.

 

[luka]

im not! i was thinking of those music reviews people would do

 

[luka]

and now i will review this weeks new releases

"rustie has had a stellar 2011 releasing the digital maximalism of ultrathizz to widespread acclaim. now he pushes the boundaries even further with this face melter of a 12"

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

Maybe it's simply the sheer volume and numbers, as well as the technology and approach, that is different rather than the fundamental role and human motivation

yeah idk either

just made me think of Billy Russell - the first "modern" war correspondent, Crimea - who's supposed to have been, as yall would say, a chancer

luke's point about everyone producing their own content sounds right

if he'd had the technology you v much imagine Hemingway making self-serving vids "a few km from the frontline" of the Spanish Civil War

but it seems to me like the fundamental motivations are basically the same

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

journalism - if you're pursuing it as a career - is always an uneasy balance between journalism and careerism

which isn't like, an original observation, it permeates every single movie about journalists ever

what's different is the greater ability w/technology and resulting methods of news distribution to literally make the story about yourself