The hip hop never ever ever stops thread

[CrowleyHead]

(28 so tyg)

Off the top of my head

• New Orleans Bounce
• post-Dipset sample/hook call & response
• free-association
• The post-autotune approach to sing-rap
• Dancehall Hybrids

None of these were EXCLUSIVE to Wayne nor were they always inherently employed all at once, but you could see different schools formed along different threads.

 

[luka]

there's 3 year generations

ive always considered this to be the case on the basis that london genres only ever lasted three years.
perhaps it correlates to peak raving years or something.

 

[sadmanbarty]

music's healthy when it's evolving in 3 year cycles.

 

[sadmanbarty]

maybe people too.

 

[sadmanbarty]

who else in rap has been that versatile?

 

[luka]

hes got a cute little love song. i'll try and remember what it is. in the meantime

 

[luka]

longhorns0203 0203
longhorns0203 0203
2 years ago
Wayne from 05-10 was arguably one of the greatest rappers ever
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indujan
2 years ago
+longhorns0203 0203 he was straight savage.
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J Cole
J Cole
2 years ago
Cause Gille was writing his shit lmao
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kingdomdreams4
kingdomdreams4
2 years ago
U crazy.. Gillie only wrote on carter 1. And its funny how Wayne was wayyyy better when he start doing it himself.
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kingdomdreams4
kingdomdreams4
2 years ago
That Gille excuse is so old, that was back in 2003.. so who is writing for him now cus he been killing every track he been on since 2014.


Andre Davis
2 years ago
no 2003-2009
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MrDev1ls
MrDev1ls
2 years ago
no it was 04-07
dee _
dee _
2 years ago
04 09 lets just all agree and stop arguing 
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MrDev1ls
MrDev1ls
2 years ago
no he peaked in 07


DesignerHeadToToes
1 year ago
M's, Glory, Street Chains, Deep, D'Usse, Krazy, Destroyed, MillyRokk, What You sayin ,Pull Up, Smuckers, Lose It... all from 2014-2016 and are FIRE. He's still one of the best alive.
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MrDev1ls
MrDev1ls
1 year ago
young thug has like 500 better songs than those

Trey winn7n
Trey winn7n
1 year ago
longhorns0203 0203 was he nice absolutely but how I judge rappers is different..his style is basic when you compare to the likes of the superior rhymes schemes of nas,AZ ,Rakim Big Pun etc ..Wayne was the nicest of the beginners style of rappers..Same as cassidy who I thought was one of the illest..now when you listen to Punchlines type rappers it's either hit or miss because it's only so much ways you can say the same thing over and it sounds nice
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ume Bugaje
ume Bugaje
11 months ago
He is still among the GOATs
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nate tinsley
nate tinsley
11 months ago
people dont understand, the drought, lil wayne gave us something to look forward to during an era (06-2011) when rap was absolute garbage and times were hard financially when gas was approaching $5/gal as a national average...we were all struggling and he gave us hope, motivation i.e. another great song...he's lyrical yet street, savage yet educated, a business mogel and thug all wrapped in one...nothing but respeck coming from a fellow 80's baby #salute

 

[luka]

Joseph jo
8 months ago
Nigga been the goat for ten years better add right
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SmokinkillNPoppinbeans
SmokinkillNPoppinbeans
8 months ago
Wait what this nigga drops a different metaphor every song he , in a way, brought metaphors to rap
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BarDavid Taxo Dysmas
BarDavid Taxo Dysmas
7 months ago
2006-2008
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1sikteg
1sikteg
7 months ago
2006 - 2012
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dexter williams
dexter williams
7 months ago
fuvvk you mean , Wayne is by far the greatest thing to touch a mic no comp


whoookiddd
whoookiddd
1 year ago
there was a point in time when u were prolly too young but Wayne was literally the best rapper on the planet. Post G unit era.
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Jeremie Sanders
Jeremie Sanders
1 year ago
idgaf if people says wanye fell off. da nigga was da biggest rapper on da planet at da time. these people now nd days jus wanna listen 2 trash lil yacthy nd lil uzi or famous dex nd shit. dis was real rap compared 2 all these new bull shit artist nd dis mumble rap smh.
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marcellas ramos
marcellas ramos
1 year ago
+Jeremie Sanders I'm sayin bro straight trash shit right now and all these young kids really think those rappers are better than Wayne lol/smh that shit cracks me up but at the same time annoying as well.
Jeremie Sanders
Jeremie Sanders
1 year ago
+marcellas ramos bruhh i feel da same way tho dey really think dey can really rap tho smh
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marcellas ramos
marcellas ramos
1 year ago
+whoookiddd are you talking squad up weezy? Carter 2 weezy? Or 05-08 mixtape killing spree weezy? The dude has to many eras that it's honestly unreal. Nobody's fucking with the dude period.

 

[luka]

this is what i had in mind. i really like this.

 

[sadmanbarty]

was the nasally, thin un-masculine voice fairly novel initially?

 

[sadmanbarty]

something that can be traced back to him?

 

[luka]

maybe crowley will pull me up on this but i feel like his popularity waned as he started to really lean into
the 'annoying' component of his voice.

 

[luka]

cool guy

 

[CORP$EY]

Was gonna say I think Wayne helped make that nasal voice the mainstream standard in rap

But I'm probably fucking up the timeline - drake, big sean, wiz kalifah

General lack of bassy voices in rap aside from Rick Ross

 

[luka]

i feel like theres always been a fairly wide range of voices in rap. his was distinctive cos it was goblin like and weird not cos it was a bit thin and boyish

 

[sadmanbarty]

which neatly brings us back round to this

corpse how important is masculinity in your enjoyment of rap?

 

[sadmanbarty]

it could even be a question for everyone.

 

[sadmanbarty]

luke likes bassy voices and samurai street ethics

 

[CORP$EY]

Masculinity was very important in attracting me to rap, I realise in retrospect, for the same reason it was important in attracting me to drawing pictures of muscular men toting big guns

I was a weedy stripling of a boy (now a chubby crackling of a man) and fantasising about being a tough guy was very important

Hence buying Ice-T 'Return of the Real' as my first rap album, with its blood-dripping bullet-holes on the cover...

Interesting to contrast the modern rap duo de jour Rae Sremmurd with Mobb Deep - two men in their early 20s who sound like they're about 15 vs two 19 year olds who sound like they've both been on several tours of Nam.

The issue of masculinity in rap music is pretty interesting these days, what with Young Thug wearing a dress and all that...

 

[luka]

self-assertion, bombast, the refusal of false modesty, the bolstering of the ego
to the point of megalomania
the refusal of compromise, the loudness, taking up space, being visible/audible
those are all things which are important to me in rap and always have been.

not that i think rap has to do that, or always does do that