The hip hop never ever ever stops thread

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Immediately was reminded of OJ and Kush era Wiz by that fresh/nef tune and then he raps "we was just kids getting high to Wiz/nowadays i get high when i'm not with my kids"
 

WebEschatology

Well-known member
Immediately was reminded of OJ and Kush era Wiz by that fresh/nef tune and then he raps "we was just kids getting high to Wiz/nowadays i get high when i'm not with my kids"
bet that made you think about the days when you actually followed rap instead of just letting rap caviar do the work
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Haha true

I don't even listen to rap caviar rap these days. I occasionally visit Martorialist to see what he's saying and that's it.

I was trawling through this thread the other night and feeling a bit nostalgic for the days when I still cared.
 

WebEschatology

Well-known member
Haha true

I don't even listen to rap caviar rap these days. I occasionally visit Martorialist to see what he's saying and that's it.

I was trawling through this thread the other night and feeling a bit nostalgic for the days when I still cared.
what happened to you Corpsey? and don't come with that lazy line of "i got old m8"
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I really don't know. I guess I kind of burned out on rap from writing about it "professionally" and force-feeding myself mixtapes I didn't even really like.

Once in a blue moon I engage (like when Crowley posted an end of year list and when you were sharing all that Detroit stuff) and I find a lot of stuff I like, but the drive to engage isn't there anymore.

Another (possibly spurious) reason might be that when I got really into rap music back in 2010 I was either a student or unemployed and I had a lot of time on my hands to read (and write) blogs. Now it feels like I've not got much time at all.

Oh, and there's also Spotify - which opened up a whole world of non-rap music to listen to and caused me to stop investigating other sources like blogs and mixtape sites like datpiff.
 

WebEschatology

Well-known member
I really don't know. I guess I kind of burned out on rap from writing about it "professionally" and force-feeding myself mixtapes I didn't even really like.

Once in a blue moon I engage (like when Crowley posted an end of year list and when you were sharing all that Detroit stuff) and I find a lot of stuff I like, but the drive to engage isn't there anymore.

Another (possibly spurious) reason might be that when I got really into rap music back in 2010 I was either a student or unemployed and I had a lot of time on my hands to read (and write) blogs. Now it feels like I've not got much time at all.

Oh, and there's also Spotify - which opened up a whole world of non-rap music to listen to and caused me to stop investigating other sources like blogs and mixtape sites like datpiff.
all these factors make sense, last one is a part that i think sometimes doesn't get brought up where people find a world beyond whatever thing they're locked into and how it can significantly alter that relationship
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
One effect of having a spotify account is that that music starts getting brought to you by the algorithim or whatever.

I do spend a lot of time investigating on Spotify but...

It's not like investigating a genre like rap via the internet, which leads you to discovering all sorts of sites and forums and videos and topics of controversy, etc. Even YouTube is a lot more enlightening when it comes to the real-world context of music. (Which is sort of what the 'Youtube comments' thread is about)
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I really don't know. I guess I kind of burned out on rap from writing about it "professionally" and force-feeding myself mixtapes I didn't even really like.
There's a discussion earlier in this thread about this – a blog or interview with Noz where he talks about how music journalists are forced to write about things they don't really care about in order to have a career.

Can't find it now, though. This is the issue with massive threads I guess.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I think they're both really interesting, lots of great bars. Maybe a bit too disjointed for me (compared to like, Sheff G) but they've got something.
 

maxi

Well-known member
this song has dark mystical surreal qualities i can't explain.

im fascinated by these lines in particular:

"choke my bitch out cuz she lied to us.
im so insecure the bitch lied to US.
i'm including you, cuz it's all of us."

there's also something special abot the shot at 2:08 where lil b is expressionlessly contemplating the christmas lights for a second before turning away. i cannot explain it though

the distorting sliding bass throughout is a crucial element in the songs otherworldliness. but the song is greater than the sum of its parts.

(also some of lil b's best adlib work. "FIIIIGAROOO")

Ive listened to this song hundreds of times since it came out and im still addicted to it. i feel there is something strange and new being tapped into here.

does anyone hear what i hear? can anyone unravel its mystery

when it came out i showed it to someone i was becoming friends at the time with and it pretty much stopped the friendship short. they didn't get it at all and said something about misogyny and we stopped being friends.

 

WebEschatology

Well-known member
Maxi m8 whatever you get out of this good for you i'm glad you find it fascinating but imo i'm not entirely sure what you're getting at and it's proof that lads who think "being into Lil b" is a personality trait really need help.

Said it before i think his influence and mark on underground has mostly been a net positive and its something i don't argue against even if i feel like at one point it was overstated and these days people would rather overstate SGP's mark on rappers. But i have always found it difficult to listen to him rap, there's just no momentum its like watching somebody trying to get a really old car to start and eventually i'm thinking to myself "WHEN DOES THIS GET GOING?"
 

WebEschatology

Well-known member
one thing i did see recently get brought up how you look at SGP and lately RX Papi and RXK Nephew(who i'm not all that into) these guys who are mostly seen as "meme rappers" they have the internet savvy in terms of how to draw attention to themselves and they have the sense of humour to boot but it's all deeply nihilistc at the core of it, its like all the positivity that lil b tried to bring to the music and his whole persona has been wiped clean from the equation
 

maxi

Well-known member
i'm not entirely sure what you're getting at
me neither because it's a mystery. i was hoping other people who feel the same way could help me unravel it a bit- not fully that would ruin it- but not trying to convince unbelievers

having said that i think surrealism is the easiest art to criticise. thats part of why its so brave. but it gets to the edges of a place you can't reach in other ways
 
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