jamaica has been coopted, it's SOLElY naff now

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Don't have anything new to add, but I agree that the AI and VR nexus could eventually overwhelm all other developments in terms of impact.

Interesting to hear that my mystification with the appeal of a lot of recent dancehall is not solely a matter of impending senility. A lot of JA records from 1999-2005 (ish) still sound pretty future to me tho.
 

muser

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Vybz was holding things together imo, after he got put away the forward momentum was lost . Dancehall needs a new leader, his back catalog is a one way street and Alkaline et al don't seem to be doing anything new. I'm pretty out the loop though
 

kumar

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what do you reckon about things like these guys

afaik a mostly filipino crew based in canada that make all these devotional records around different jamaican musical forms, or at least an idea of them thats received through several different hands. the sample material all gives a sense of that process, albums structured like 2nd hand dancehall tapes, indiscriminate use of mic chat samples. most of the tracks are mainly built around the vocal cut ups, so the influences cant be disguised in the way that say, mashing together a couple of different drum patterns could. a lot of their tracks dont even seem to have drums at all exactly. i mean this could sound like a visual cultures phd project but i think theyre great, the voices do something very exciting i reckon, its a interesting thing to foreground in that way. vocal samples just register in a different way to instrumental elements, how many almost alright uk bassy tracks are ruined by some lazy sample from babylon for example.
 

luka

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That article fits perfectly into the disruption thread too. It's very interesting you should read it.
 

version

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BigBlackBarry
‏@BigBlackBarry

The fact is that the traphall scam music is the most seismic shift in Jamaican music since the 1980s and the advent of digital dancehall.
It is the transition that me and my generation has been predicting and fearing.
Like mento, ska, rocksteady and reggae , dancehall is over.
5:35 AM - 23 Oct 2019

BigBlackBarry
‏@BigBlackBarry

By over I mean that it is no longer the sound of young Jamaica.
Dancehall like those other categories is now in nostalgia category for them.
5:36 AM - 23 Oct 2019

BigBlackBarry
‏@BigBlackBarry

Hard pill to swallow for me. But the writing has been on the wall for over a decade. True dancehall is now relegated to "nostalgia" events.
Strictly 2k is to 2019 what Heineken Startime was to the late 80s early 90s.
An event to appreciate a genre of a bygone era.
5:40 AM - 23 Oct 2019

BigBlackBarry
‏@BigBlackBarry
5h5 hours ago

And the irony is that many of us would argue that the mid 2000s music that is now the lane for nostalgic party goers is actually the era that put the final nail in dancehalls coffin.
The Big Ship era and style of production.
 

version

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One thing I like about that article is what we were on about in a few other threads about making the most of the "spider like limbs", every person or tune he mentions is linked to on insta, youtube, soundcloud etc. It also breaks it up a bit, you jump to a bit of each tune, scan an insta page then jump back to the article.
 

luka

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I also like that it gives you some social geographic and economic context. I don't come across a lot of that with dancehall. Makes a big difference. It's a good article. No stupid writing either, just writing like a normal grown up.
 
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