Explain Electro To A Sweet Boy

[thirdform]

the pianos and overly euphoric stuff was mostly a provincial and big rave thing tbh, for all Barty's mutterings about how he's the real white bloke who should have been born to black parents, who is truly london...

like a tunbridge wellser he listens to fantazia and helter skelter tape packs.

This is what happens when you deal with your haram this is the reason for the fall of the ottoman empire whilst you're jizzing everyone is on a character assassination mission.

 

[thirdform]

I don't know actually, in any detail, what various hardcores there might be, or how yours might contrast with Bartys. I don't revisit it very often but it's in my DNA. I was very young and just listened to the radio obsessively. Pulse always until things started to shift towards proto-jungle I guess. Then rush and kool. That's really it.

Matthew for example went to Speed. I just listened to kool. That alone accounts for our differing interpretations and valueings.

I'm into the pirate radio sets more than rave tapes. so that EQ total xtc tune is more a big rave tune. that's the stuff i try and stay away from. i like chipmunks and shit but more the noise factory kind.

 

[thirdform]

not so much into this stuff.


more into this stuff.

 

[thirdform]

this is real hardcore hype was so ahead of the game back then it's mad.

 

[version]

pulse

 

[thirdform]

militant steppa. tbf it's not a huge jump from these kinds of vibes to electrotechno there's just not the dub element.

 

[luka]

Formation not a big label for me but like I say im not a historian of this stuff. You young ones know more about it than I do in a lot of ways. You obviously know more about the artifacts.

 

[luka]

"And he's saying "can you play promised land cos im not on this planet" neither am I mate!"

These are exactly the kind of pre jungle dj hosts I was channeling in my first radio show that unfortunately no one in world listened to but which ive listened to 2000 times specially when tripping and on another planet

 

[version]

Well this is it isn't it? But once you start thinking about this everything is kinda fucked. It's like the end point of all debates. I think you have to kind of ignore this. Like in music or art or whatever, you can have it explained why nothing is good and you're bored of everything - and then suddenly you see something that you know is theoretically rubbish but you are really blown away by it and excited again.

Yeah, I don't think there's any getting away from it, just little acts of resistance brought about through a reshuffling of priorities.

 

[luka]

This is amazing.

 

[thirdform]

yeah this is the one, none of that surrey plink plonk stuff, just straight up stabs, eerie ambient textures and bass.

 

[version]

I think I found it via Craner posting it somewhere on here a while back so credit to him.

 

[thirdform]

another one from the real hardcore sound. check that chest rattling bass. can compete with most dubstep no competition.

 

[thirdform]

tis is the best pop hardcore tune though. not sons of a loop loop da era far out. his danny breaks stuff is better. really futuristic and advanced.


It's hard to compete with this one for pop hardcore.

 

[thirdform]

A lot of people think futurism is this thing where it's shining gleaming surfaces, or the untapped technology or the cloud. but actually there can be a darker 'no future' futurism, a futurism that presages the existing future rather than anticipates or awaits or idealises the future of the future. that is one of the main dynamic of my listening when it comes to 21st century music. in the similar way that electric guitars were not really revolutionary by the early 70s but still spoke to the zeitgeist.that is what i think machine music can do, we've had 60 years of evolution and it would be strange to claim that we haven't made these machines instruments, even in terms of atonality or noise making devices.

 

[thirdform]

I think he's teaching the kids how to dj now. still plays out obviously, all the styles etc. used to do a show on kool but by 2018 that was largely over as well.

you know goldie gave him a test press of terminator back in the day right?

Anyway, electro...

 

[thirdform]

this is the drexciya cut for me. cold.

 

[thirdform]

 

[firefinga]

What is Electro, ey? IF you do some pop-music archeology via (very few) surviving mixtapes from around 83, 84 and/or carefully scanning music mags from that era for mailorder lists of (dance) record stores or DJ Top Tens you discover Electro was a big part of what DJs would play back then, alongside and together with Funk, Italo-Disco, Hi-NRG, EBM and some (late) New Wave.

 

[thirdform]