Hipsters, in hindsight.

[Leo]

I'll pay my rent in choons of the day, thanks very much Leo, I'll move in on the 1st.

I know people complain about what's happened to it, and I wasn't here before obviously, but it's on first impression still a lot more mixed and full of weirdos than the expensive bits of brooklyn. feels like some of the 80s (etc) people and organizations were able to hold out, whereas in Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope and so on the takeover feels a lot more comprehensive.

I saw Jesse Malin on a solo tour in about 2005 in Oxford, where he managed to annoy everyone by confusing Oxford the town with Eton (a school) and also by being crap. He looked way too young to be an early punk. I always associated him with, and I'm sure he's a firm favourite on dissensus due to his similarities with autechre and dancehall, Ryan Adams, so thought he was part of that 00s indie thing. Maybe he was part of all of it.

it's still got a core of ethnic groups, polish/ukrainian/hispanic. some people stick around: a good friend was born there, still lives on east 4th.

Maybe Malin hasn't done hard drugs and aged better than most from that era. heart attacks' first single was in 1981 (https://www.discogs.com/artist/257795-Heart-Attack-2).

EDIT: well, no wonder he looked too young to be an early punk, check this out from wiki:

Jesse Malin began his music career, at the age of 12, as the front-man for the seminal New York City hardcore band Heart Attack. The band auditioned at CBGBs but were denied because they couldn't bring in a drinking crowd to the bar.