Hipsters, in hindsight.

IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
Benny B said:
I agree England is probably the best country in the world, and I can always be proud of having been born there and lived there for 30 years, without having the slightest desire to ever go back.

Why did you leave, Rich? Will you ever go back there to live?
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Two* main reasons for leaving. One, the cold, and that's sort of a strange one in that it never bothered me - I don't think about weather a lot, I don't always prefer dry to wet or anything like that. I can certainly see the beauty in a stark windswept day or even drizzle for a certain mood... but actually, it seems, being cold was hurting me more than I realised and one day it suddenly hit me and I was just like "Nope, no more" as though it had built up and reached a level and I just sort of snapped. But the other reason and this by far the main one... sheer laziness. I realised that if I rented out a flat in London and lived in a country where things are cheaper, then I could live without a day job which is basically my ultimate dream. I hate working. And that meant I could concentrate on all the things I like.. I could dj a lot, start my record label, maybe have a crack at writing a book. Do those things and enjoy them and not have to compromise cos it wouldn't be my living so I could dj in a place that I liked and play what I liked even if the pay was bad or nothing, and turn down gigs I didn't like where I would have to play stuff I wouldn't want to.

Really I never get bored. You know like some people think that if they haven't got a day job then they would soon want one. I'm not like that, I always have books I want to read or films that I want to watch and I see no virtue in doing a job that I don't like for someone else. Sure if I had a job I liked, but the jobs I've had like working in an accounts department for a big company.... just really glad to not have to do that sort of thing.

Will I ever go back? Well I will never say never in case I change my mind and of course I have friends and family and roots there and I do love London... but there are a lot of things I hate about England and I feel that with Brexit and the tories and so on those things have come more and more to the fore lately so there is little appeal right now. If for some reason I left Portugal I would rather try another country. Cos up to the time I was forty - ok apart from a few months in Amsterdam when I worked for a Dutch company - I have not properly experienced other countries except in the most shallow way as a tourist. So I feel like IF I had to leave Portugal for some reason I would rather go elsewhere.

When I met Liza she had escaped from Russia quite young and been an au pair in Germany and had all these adventures there and then met an English guy and moved to Manchester and then London and she been hanging out with The Fall and translated a book for Terry Christian and etc etc and while she had been doing all that I had barely left this small area of East London so I felt that I should change that and try and catch up. And now I have lived in one country that is not UK it's as though a seal is broken and, I could do it again, so part of me is always interested in trying other places... I've never been to Turkey or Georgia but both places are extremely appealing to me. I guess it would be a bit of a stretch to up sticks and move to a place i have never been.






*Alright there was a third reason in that the group of people around me - not all my friends, but one of my friendship groups and it happened to be the group that contained the people I lived with and the people who came to my house and the people I would be most likely to see when I walked around the area where I lived - were pretty much all junkies and that was getting to be problematic, one more reason to change.
 
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Leo

Leo

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I'm jealous, @IdleRich, would love not having to work, I absolutely would not get bored. at my extremely advanced age, retirement is beckoning, can't wait.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

IdleRich
I love it. I mean, at times I'm not as productive as I'd like to be and sometimes I get into bad habits where it takes me ages to get round to things but on the whole it's great. I don't think anyone ever dies thinking "I wish I had spent more time commuting to an office to work for eight hours on a menial task for a company I don't give a shit about" and so I do realise how lucky I am.

Retirement beckoning? So... they make you work into your eighties over there or what?
 
shakahislop

shakahislop

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IdleRich said:
I love it. I mean, at times I'm not as productive as I'd like to be and sometimes I get into bad habits where it takes me ages to get round to things but on the whole it's great. I don't think anyone ever dies thinking "I wish I had spent more time commuting to an office to work for eight hours on a menial task for a company I don't give a shit about" and so I do realise how lucky I am.

Retirement beckoning? So... they make you work into your eighties over there or what?
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he was 72 today. i think the retirement age must be 75
 
Clinamenic

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
As a result, such imbibatory discrimination runs rampant overseas, as evidenced in the multiple threads across which the topic has inexplicably metastasized.
 
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