Hipsters, in hindsight.

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Of course, non-American nationals are not bound by such regulations, but only by their morals.
That said, the extradition of chronic, rogue tea-shamers has been an ongoing legislative effort, blocked by the devilish antics of the Big Powdered Milk cartel whose corporate reign depends largely on the anti-cream contingency in question.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The cold was a big factor for me too. I didn't want to face another English winter.
I think I mentioned this on another thread but it wasn't even the cold in England but the vicious wind cutting through me while having a fag outside Schiphol Airport that made me finally have the revelation - fuck northern europe!
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
That said, the extradition of chronic, rogue tea-shamers has been an ongoing legislative effort, blocked by the devilish antics of the Big Powdered Milk cartel whose corporate reign depends largely on the anti-cream contingency in question.
More recently, scandal has refueled this effort with the added pressure of public controversy. An English man named Stephen Goodman, partial to using heavy cream in his tea, much to the disgust of what remaining peers he hadn't alienated, was tailed by a group of dogmatic milkists as he went to the grocer, and was beaten and force-drank his newly purchased carton of heavy cream.

Ongoing allegations have it that this band of dairy ruffians was actually hired by mid-level executives at Mary Prairie Powered Milk, Inc. which happens to be a leading lobbying force overseas in the US, as an attempt deter the hitherto outspoken Mr. Goodman's efforts at cultural impact.
 

shakahislop

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In a bar in the east village which, the more I get to know it, I realize is less comprehensively gentrified than I thought. Specifically in a bar owned by a musician called Jesse Malin, who was part of that whole Strokes era thing I think. Starting to think that in a lot of ways the hipster thing was, like a lot of fashions, an American thing that got exported. Nothing more really. I guess it did have quite an influential sensibility attached to it, so it's more than just clothes and music, so it's more like punk or grunge as a phenomenon, rather than like glam rock or something.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It's just as well I missed all this tea-bashing at the time. Heads would have rolled, I tell you!
 

Leo

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In a bar in the east village which, the more I get to know it, I realize is less comprehensively gentrified than I thought. Specifically in a bar owned by a musician called Jesse Malin, who was part of that whole Strokes era thing I think. Starting to think that in a lot of ways the hipster thing was, like a lot of fashions, an American thing that got exported. Nothing more really. I guess it did have quite an influential sensibility attached to it, so it's more than just clothes and music, so it's more like punk or grunge as a phenomenon, rather than like glam rock or something.

he was in an early punk band Heart Attack, and his band D-Generation were a big-ish deal for awhile.

that's long been a center of life, luckily still has a lot of of tenement buildings that don't appeal to gentrifiers who want a doorman and elevator. I remember when it was kind of dicey to go to Ave A, and the only reason you went east of that was to buy drugs. my wife lived on 14th between B & C when we met, used to spend all our time in the neighborhood. she still owns the place, maybe we could be your landlord one day, Shaka.
 

shakahislop

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he was in an early punk band Heart Attack, and his band D-Generation were a big-ish deal for awhile.

that's long been a center of life, luckily still has a lot of of tenement buildings that don't appeal to gentrifiers who want a doorman and elevator. I remember when it was kind of dicey to go to Ave A, and the only reason you went east of that was to buy drugs. my wife lived on 14th between B & C when we met, used to spend all our time in the neighborhood. she still owns the place, maybe we could be your landlord one day, Shaka.
I'll pay my rent in choons of the day, thanks very much Leo, I'll move in on the 1st.

I know people complain about what's happened to it, and I wasn't here before obviously, but it's on first impression still a lot more mixed and full of weirdos than the expensive bits of brooklyn. feels like some of the 80s (etc) people and organizations were able to hold out, whereas in Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope and so on the takeover feels a lot more comprehensive.

I saw Jesse Malin on a solo tour in about 2005 in Oxford, where he managed to annoy everyone by confusing Oxford the town with Eton (a school) and also by being crap. He looked way too young to be an early punk. I always associated him with, and I'm sure he's a firm favourite on dissensus due to his similarities with autechre and dancehall, Ryan Adams, so thought he was part of that 00s indie thing. Maybe he was part of all of it.
 
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