Clinamenic

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Another reason to abstract your consciousness beyond its native wetware. Although at that point we'd just had a different sense of virus to be concerned with.
 

Clinamenic

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The microchip joke is blunt but not entirely off-base - mRNA vaccines are molecular techne, just not IoT techne, yet. To my knowledge.
 

Clinamenic

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But nutrient microfactories and other biochem tech are perfectly reasonable to expect to see soon.

"Genetic engineering" is the technically embraced term, less ethical baggage than "eugenics" but really hits at the same thing - systematic optimization of genetic pathways.
 

Clinamenic

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Ethics may be a foregrounded factor in conversations about this between experts, but we've yet to enter the era of near-total blockchain public auditability across sectors, a largely utopian anticipation, so there presumably remain labs and projects more or less completely unburdened - ahem, unrectified - by ethical accounting.
 

luka

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i definitely got the fear
never usually have anxious dreams
got another email from my cousin, should reassure you

I asked you about FORCED injection with an experimental gene therapy, which is now known to be ineffective (see Israel (where figures are damning despite a third jab already having been rolled out with a fourth on the way) as well as uk).


There is no need for anyone to even get to the 'stage one' mentioned in this article as there are are prophylactics and early treatment available that seem to reduce the 0.15 - 0.27% mortality figures (Depending if you go with Ioannidis on the WHO website or the US CDC) by a further 85%.


Attached is the data downloaded directly from statistics sweden. One useful calculation to speculate on, is the average of the light mortality of 2019 and the high mortality of 2020. I'm sure it is very crude to do so, but it is nonetheless one useful thing to speculate on. The resulting figure is about an additional 2,500 - 3,000 deaths over average. I understand that a population the size of sweden expects 1000 deaths from flu every year, rising to 2000 in the type of bad flu year that only those directly effected would ever learn about. Some of these excess deaths resulted from poor management of care homes which was corrected later on and can be learned from.


So for this country that did not lock down, it appears there was an additional disease burden twice as bad as the flu. It's good to have this for perspective.


A separate cause for the larger mortality in the uk must be sought, as the virus alone is unlikey to account for it. The extraordinary changes in that country are too confused to be considered an experiment in the true sense, but it seems to me that somewhere in that mess is the more likely cause of high mortality than a virus that has been shown not to be very very severe elsewhere.


Please disregard all of my commentary above. It may serve only to detract from the magnitude of the raw data. But please review the statistics sweden figures. please do so every day for a week. What do they mean?





https://www.scb.se/en/About-us/news...h-preliminary-statistics-on-deaths-in-sweden/
 

sufi

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A separate cause for the larger mortality in the uk must be sought, as the virus alone is unlikey to account for it. The extraordinary changes in that country are too confused to be considered an experiment in the true sense, but it seems to me that somewhere in that mess is the more likely cause of high mortality than a virus that has been shown not to be very very severe elsewhere.
the brexit dividend? @john eden @IdleRich :ROFLMAO: :cry:
 

luka

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i do have sympathy with this view. interesting how virus response has spit the paranoid community. some have taken the plandemic/scamdemic route while others, understandably, dont want to get virus and die/dont want friends and family to get a virus and die

 

Clinamenic

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Valid concern and well-voiced. The skepticism is warranted, but wearing a mask is a trivial sacrifice. Not saying that is necessarily the subtext here, though. Just pointing out where the opposition strikes me as extraneous and, strictly speaking, stupid.

We can all be stupid here and there though.
 

Clinamenic

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I'm entirely serious, if even somewhat delusional. A cursory glance at CIA hiring opportunities revealed a demand for STEM degrees, which I cannot yet offer.
 

Clinamenic

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Aside from CIA, maybe ARPA or some ARPA auxiliary. Maybe DIA. Maybe ODNI. Maybe even just some private think tank to eventually operate in an advisory capacity. As of now I take the side of liberal democracy, ideally unto a multipolar world order but I doubt how feasible that is for the foreseeable future.
 

luka

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Aside from CIA, maybe ARPA or some ARPA auxiliary. Maybe DIA. Maybe ODNI. Maybe even just some private think tank to eventually operate in an advisory capacity. As of now I take the side of liberal democracy, ideally unto a multipolar world order but I doubt how feasible that is for the foreseeable future.
what do you think of whistleblowers like snowden etc? traitors to liberal democracy and freedom itself?
 

Clinamenic

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Right now the pipe dream will suffice. I don't yet have a concrete value proposition, nor do I possess resume-friendly strengths. I aim to take the next year or two to learn more, ideally continuing at a non-linear rate, maybe managing to accrue a couple formal credentials here or there.

edit: typo fix from "posses" to "possess"
 

Clinamenic

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what do you think of whistleblowers like snowden etc? traitors to liberal democracy and freedom itself?
I'm inclined to avoid situations which would warrant whistleblowing, and beyond that I am inclined to support mechanisms to protect whistleblowers. That said I know almost nothing about Snowden's case.
 
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