Billie Eilish
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which country?
not really pissed off we will have murdered all americans by then. maybe trump is a good thing let the alt righters fester in their white genocide theory it's right i wholly support it 100% white genocide is good. they are 100% right there's a white genocide why would i even need to deny it? it's the first genocide in history we can proudly lay claim to.
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CrowleyHead
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The brutal irony is that Nucleus' energy IS more or less the energy behind pushing someone like Billie the way it is any adolescent pop star so like, I have no time for his jokes but there's a lesson learned here.
Anyway that's the truth of the matter she crosses no bounds, she's A Pop Star. Not as if to say 'as all' but she isn't as unique as people make her to be.
Anyway that's the truth of the matter she crosses no bounds, she's A Pop Star. Not as if to say 'as all' but she isn't as unique as people make her to be.
luka
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Yes the entertainment, fashion, advertising industries constantly sexualise children and pubescents. That queasy hinterland is pop culture to a large degree. Britney in the schoolgirl uniform, Arianna Grande in pigtails, Miley Ray Cyrus in a cot. This is a key, fundamental part of the machine. Version should be extra aware of this given Pynchon is his favourite author. Pynchon, like Crumb, presents these fetishes pointing to the way they are utilised under capitalism (Shirley Temple) while at the same time openly lavishly enjoying them (the authorial boner)
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Exactly, and it shows how cultish the pop music industry has become. Every few years a new fresh-faced starlet, usually a product of the Disney megacapital machine, undergoes the transformation from pre-pubescent idol to fodder for cynical tabloid culture, with furious self-righteous adults primed to outlet their rage in a ritual of slut-shaming. It has ancient, cultic origins. Like a sacrificial harvest rite. South Park parodied this a few years ago in an episode where Britney Spears was photographed to death, then it accurately predicted that Miley Cyrus would be the next sacrificial virgin to get the treatment. I could reel off a list of examples but we already know them. It has become so predictable and disgusting.
That’s one of the reasons Billie Eilish could change things, and why I think the video I posted earlier with that “music critic’s” conspiracy theory about Billie being an “industry plant” is so laughable. Even the elements of her style that are “sexy” - the spiky collars and slave chains around her neck, the perverse innuendo in her lyrics, etc. - isn’t some marketing gimmick, it’s art. Instead of seducing you, it threatens and confuses (check out the Youtube video “Adults React to Billie Eilish” for proof). But despite being (and please forgive me for pointing this out, she’s 17 which is legal where I live), a perfect 10, she wears baggy clothes, curses like a sailor, is funny as hell and down to earth. In other words, the exact opposite of the ethereal, submissive pop whore the industry wants her to be. And it’s not about feminist empowerment for Billie imo, it’s about genius and art. Beating the industry (while it breathes its last, granted) at its game and waiting for it to catch up. Topped Billboard last week moving over 300k units. Not bad for a kid recording music she writes and produces herself in her family bedroom.
That’s one of the reasons Billie Eilish could change things, and why I think the video I posted earlier with that “music critic’s” conspiracy theory about Billie being an “industry plant” is so laughable. Even the elements of her style that are “sexy” - the spiky collars and slave chains around her neck, the perverse innuendo in her lyrics, etc. - isn’t some marketing gimmick, it’s art. Instead of seducing you, it threatens and confuses (check out the Youtube video “Adults React to Billie Eilish” for proof). But despite being (and please forgive me for pointing this out, she’s 17 which is legal where I live), a perfect 10, she wears baggy clothes, curses like a sailor, is funny as hell and down to earth. In other words, the exact opposite of the ethereal, submissive pop whore the industry wants her to be. And it’s not about feminist empowerment for Billie imo, it’s about genius and art. Beating the industry (while it breathes its last, granted) at its game and waiting for it to catch up. Topped Billboard last week moving over 300k units. Not bad for a kid recording music she writes and produces herself in her family bedroom.
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Listen, that would make you the nonce, not to mention a huge douche. All I did was make a joke with an absurd hypothetical premise.
firefinga
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If I remember correctly, that's only the case if the people having sex are both (or more) between 14-18. So if you bone a 16 year old and are yourself 20, you are fucked (in another way). However I haven't looked that up, just what I seem to recall from some dark corners of my late 30s brain.
Oh it's a douch when your daughter can't become the pop star is it? this is the fascism of pop music. it tolerates huge amounts of hypocrisy so long as they are boxed off into their own ghettos. anything is permitted in pop music but so long as it upholds the authoritarian social reproduction mechanisms of the state. Beyonce, Kanye and post malone, grimes etc etc .. do far more to rule America than Trump could ever hope to do.
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all this stuff about cardi b being more political than techno. i 100% agree. course she's political! she mobilises the cultural pacification mechanisms of the surveillance state. Everyone sees herself in Cardi, that's precisely why she must be resisted! 'Cardi is more punk than anyone in techno' of course she is! I completely agree!
DEATH TO PUNK! It never went hard enough.
DEATH TO PUNK! It never went hard enough.
CrowleyHead
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Nucleus, you're over-varnishing things man, she's not that deep you just don't talk to teens.
Which, given the way you're posting, best possible outcome.
Which, given the way you're posting, best possible outcome.
version
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Yeah, it's one of the things I dislike about him and his books. He's a bit of a creeper.
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Anyone in Germany or France who can clear this up? I know it's 16 where I live (Atlanta), and that applies to adults. If what you are suggesting is correct, and it might be, then in states/countries where the legal limit is 18, any sex between two minors would be illegal, which.... Jesus, could you imagine that? The repressed adolescent angst would reach epidemic proportions. A new school shooting every 3-4 days.
Fun fact: incest is legal in New Jersey as long as it is between consenting adults (18 is the legal limit there). Explains why Donald Trump spends so much time there on his golf course, carting Ivanka around. Only in America! (Well, New Jersey).