WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
secular world looking for reality cushioning from Covid and everything else before the autumn bills hit

admittedly watched McCartney on tv with the wife (a week away fell through, honest) and the cunt could’ve died mid-set at any moment too and then what

he paced it ok for a 90 year old but the crowd seemed a bit too into it, like Tea and nazis, before tincture and work crap coalesced into a long night of stress
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
walking is a big part (in haj also) more people have their effing step counters now "i walked 14 miles yesterday"
i don't want to push the comparison too much, coz obviously it's limited, but especially during what was basically an hour long ordeal following my friends determined to get under the arcadia spider for carl cox, slowly inching forwards in a massive crowd towards a central iconic structure, although it didn't have the circular flow of the crowd, did make me think of the walk around the kabaa
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Luka will cry larf smiley at me here but there is a certain spiritual element in some musical gatherings

Glastonbury is one and DMZ was another

Not an overtly spiritual element, more a kind of collective euphoria at being somewhere, a communing
thinking of neitzsche a bit, there's something in beyond good and evil about asceticism being part of what makes spiritual experiences possible. personally think that the exhaustion of glastonbury, the sleep deprivation, all of the walking (which is a lot, some days its the main activity when you tot it up), the intensity that's created by things as simple as never having a comfortable place to sit down, as well as the drugs of course, put you in a good space for a spiritual-esque experience.
 

sufi

lala
thinking of neitzsche a bit, there's something in beyond good and evil about asceticism being part of what makes spiritual experiences possible. personally think that the exhaustion of glastonbury, the sleep deprivation, all of the walking (which is a lot, some days its the main activity when you tot it up), the intensity that's created by things as simple as never having a comfortable place to sit down, as well as the drugs of course, put you in a good space for a spiritual-esque experience.
there's a great deal of idealism too about glasto - people saying it's their best thing ever, all the claptrap about living together and picking up your litter and not pissing in the bushes,
& the ascetic charm of camping out, of living roughly for a few days

but all that is balanced with super expensive tickets, myriad stalls of pricey toxic junk food and absolutely ridiculous psychedelic pound shop tat, mega resorts on the peripheries with superluxe yurts etc helicopters buzzing overhead every five minutes to evacuate the overtired geriatric artists
 

sufi

lala
It's interesting how it's perceived externally too,

i witnessed a long thread on twiiter around an unsourced picture of abandoned tents surrounded by litter - def not from 2022 and probs not glasters at all, but apparently the commenters didnt mind about that, they were all about how the environmentalists are hypocrites and how the middle class are depraved, the agenda is so strong that reality is immaterial

i certainly noticed some resentment & snideness from the long suffering staff at the local train station towards the dusty privileged hordes on sunday afternoon
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
secular world looking for reality cushioning from Covid and everything else before the autumn bills hit

admittedly watched McCartney on tv with the wife (a week away fell through, honest) and the cunt could’ve died mid-set at any moment too and then what

he paced it ok for a 90 year old but the crowd seemed a bit too into it, like Tea and nazis, before tincture and work crap coalesced into a long night of stress

 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Yeah it's quite a weird one cos I used to be into DNB and at that time at least it existed at a slight remove from every other dance genre.

Most ppl either didn't give a shit about or actively disliked house music and techno. Dubstep got shat on at first and became more popular as it became more wobbly. Grime was more popular, actually...

And from the outside (not) looking in you kind of forget DNB exists, but as you say it's hugely popular, will keep going forever. (And as third has said many times is absolutely huge in Europe/Russia.)

been listening to tim reaper this morning. as always with d&b it sounds pretty much the same as something made 20 years ago, but with a general production tint that i can't put my finger on. the sameness doesn't really matter does it. this isn't where you're going to find that kind of innovation. but it does nonetheless evolve along with its audience and its hitting right on a breezy morning in manhattan
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I think Tim Reaper makes and plays actively retro pastiche jungle.

No idea whats going on in the DNB scene "proper" these days. Probably something not dissimilar to what was going on in it back in 2007.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
I think Tim Reaper makes and plays actively retro pastiche jungle.

No idea whats going on in the DNB scene "proper" these days. Probably something not dissimilar to what was going on in it back in 2007.
right interesting, that explains why its tickled my ear. now that you mention it there are a lot of amen sounding things in there.
 

jenks

thread death
Probably only @WashYourHands would agree but this has been my cotd today. I didn’t want to stick it in COTD as I don’t need the grief but thought van and the Band would once have been peak Glasto demographic. And now it’s Lizzo

 
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