Mr. Tea

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It's also one of two substances that always gets called a "date rape drug" in the media, the other being rohypnol. Now rohypnol pills are dyed a very vivid blue-green colour to make it basically impossible for them to be ground up and added to a drink in such a way that wouldn't be immediately obvious to the intended victim, while GHB, as Rich says, has an extremely strong taste. So really, if you could get either of those things into someone's drink without them noticing, they're probably drunk enough already that you could do pretty much whatever you wanted to them anyway.
 

Mr. Tea

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I read a book about GHB a while ago, it was a thing being talked about in Manchester for a while, so much so that they had a stand with leaflets in the library and this book, written by a guy who went to loads of chillouts and then his life unravelled after he got taken advantage at one.

But yeah that theme of the dosage kept coming up, not just the specific amounts but also timings and so on.

He did talk about the unique atmosphere of them though, which I suppose is the appeal?

The front cover image of that book is genius. Three concatenated bumming gays, made out of pills.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
Yeah it's a matter of millilitres and can easily be lethal mixed with alcohol / benzos etc. Throughout my ghb run never even had any wild sex orgies on it .. probably one of the lowest points was when I took some back to the parents. took too much, of course ended up looking at porn before passing out falling backwards on the floor still in my chair. got woken up in the morning by my mother looking worried with the porn still on the screen. Obviously words were never exchanged about this.
did you move to spain after this incident?
 

Mr. Tea

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Slightly suspicious of how carefully Tea has thought through the logistics of date rape
Lol, yes, very good, you got me.

But it's a great example of a moral panic obfuscating a real problem. I think there's been a handful of proven cases of "drug-assisted rape" in this country, ever, if "drugs" means not alcohol. But of course it happens all the time if you include alcohol.

Bit like the panic about "ritual satanic child abuse", which turned out to be basically a myth. Never mind that non-ritual, non-satanic child abuse goes on all over the place.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Lol, yes, very good, you got me.

But it's a great example of a moral panic obfuscating a real problem. I think there's been a handful of proven cases of "drug-assisted rape" in this country, ever, if "drugs" means not alcohol. But of course it happens all the time if you include alcohol.

Bit like the panic about "ritual satanic child abuse", which turned out to be basically a myth. Never mind that non-ritual, non-satanic child abuse goes on all over the place.
But it's not like you get it slipped in your drink by a stranger... my friend got sexually assaulted by someone after taking GHB at some party I believe.
 

Mr. Tea

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But it's not like you get it slipped in your drink by a stranger... my friend got sexually assaulted by someone after taking GHB at some party I believe.
Oh sure, I meant the idea of someone deliberately incapacitating an intended victim by spiking them - I'm sure tons of people get assaulted (or robbed, of course) after getting fucked up of their own accord, sadly.
 

boxedjoy

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people don't get raped because of drugs or alcohol, they get raped because somebody raped them, let's not go down this road because it's close to "they were asking for it" territory
 

Mr. Tea

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people don't get raped because of drugs or alcohol, they get raped because somebody raped them, let's not go down this road because it's close to "they were asking for it" territory
Yes, I know that. I was thinking as I wrote it, it's difficult even to mention intoxication because someone will always jump on you (er, so to speak) with an accusation of victim-blaming.

I like to think "Nobody ever deserves to get raped" and "It's easier to assault a very wasted person than a sober person" are not mutually exclusive ideas. In fact I like to think they're both self-evident.
 

luka

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You're better off drinking one before opening the next one I reckon. Bit late now though and I do like the recklessness of it. A carnival of consumption.
 

luka

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Any time you host a lads session you wake up the next day to find beer cans everywhere. Legends! You think to yourself, look how many beers we've done. Then you start cleaning up and realise they're all half full. The really pleasurable bit of drinking beer is opening beer. Hearing that hiss.
 

version

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I didn't mean I'd opened three simultaneously. I was trying to say I'd had three whilst keeping to my signature phrase.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Any time you host a lads session you wake up the next day to find beer cans everywhere. Legends! You think to yourself, look how many beers we've done. Then you start cleaning up and realise they're all half full. The really pleasurable bit of drinking beer is opening beer. Hearing that hiss.
I'm sure we've all, at some point, taken a swig from a half-full beer can that some cunt has decided to use as an ashtray. It's pretty much a rite of passage. A secular, Western equivalent of circumcision, or that thing that tribe in Africa do with those terrible stinging ants.
 

version

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*shudder*

It's one of those things it's bad enough watching someone else do. I remember a mate doing it with a can he'd been spitting and ashing joints and cigs into all night just before he went to bed and nearly throwing up on the spot.
 
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