luka

Well-known member
we can't help suspecting that the wealthy and famous have made a pact with the devil. only satan can promise you these things.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
yikes. definitely was him then. that makes me think of when the 4chan detectives discovered peado Podestas art collection. did you follow that?
The thing that actually makes me think that the Hodel conspiracy might actually be one that could be true is the facts that the feds were taping him for something else - killing his secretary - and he was recorded saying to a friend

Supposin' I did kill the Black Dahlia. They can't prove it now. They can't talk to my secretary anymore because she's dead. They thought there was something fishy. Anyway, now they may have figured it out. Killed her. Maybe I did kill my secretary.

Which you would have thought might have been enough to maybe bring him in for questioning at least.

After the establishment and success of his medical practice and becoming head of the county's Social Hygiene Bureau, Hodel was moving in affluent Los Angeles society by the 1940s. He was enamored of the darker side of Surrealism and the decadence surrounding that art scene and was friends with such artists as a photographer Man Ray and film director John Huston, and those who associated with them.[1] With Ray and some other Surrealists, he shared an interest in sadomasochism and the darker side of art and philosophy; with the young men of the Hollywood scene, he shared a fondness for partying, drinking, and womanizing
Hodel purchased the Sowden House in 1945 and lived in that Hollywood property from 1945 until 1950. The structure, built-in 1926 by Lloyd Wright (son of the noted American architect Frank Lloyd Wright), has since been registered as a Los Angeles historic landmark. Hodel was effectively a polygamist in this large household: In the late 1940s, during the period of the deaths of Spaulding and Short (the Black Dahlia), Hodel was living with "Dorero" and their three children (including Steven, who would later write books outlining a case to prove George Hodel a murderer); with his first legal wife Dorothy Anthony and their daughter Tamar; and, at times, with his original common-law wife, Emilia, mother of Hodel's eldest child (by that time an adult). He was also prone to taking a series of temporary lovers; multiple witnesses later suggested such a relationship between Hodel and Short.
In late 1949, Hodel's teenage daughter Tamar accused him of incestuous sexual abuse and impregnating her (after which she was given a back alley abortion). He was acquitted after a widely publicized trial.[4] There had been three witnesses present during and who participated in the sex acts. Two testified at the trial, and the third recanted her earlier testimony and refused to come forward, the theory being that George Hodel had threatened her into silence. The trial had caused Tamar to look like a liar, that she had made up the entire abuse allegation for attention.

This is the house

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version

Well-known member
... Steven, who would later write books outlining a case to prove George Hodel a murderer...
That blog I linked to on the previous page is Steven's.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I'm not convinced by that guy though, he kinda undermined his case cos he then claimed Hodel was the Zodiac Killer as well... probably Jack the Ripper too.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
During Steve Hodel's investigation, he learned that his father may have been responsible for more than one murder. Steve Hodel also suspected his father of being the Chicago "Lipstick Killer" of the late 1940s, the Manila "Jigsaw Murderer" of 1967, and even the San Francisco "Zodiac Killer" of the late 1960s, among other such crimes.[5]
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
That Hodel house is amazing

I really want to be rich and have orgies in houses like that

If I ever hit it big and make it into the illuminati I'll start a thread on here and hip you to all the secrets
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Apparently last changed hands for $4.7m - not as obscene as some things you hear about I suppose.
Most recently, the Sowden House was sold in 2018 for $4.7 million to a man named Dan Goldfarb who owns a lucrative business making cannabis-infused products for pets. He shares the home with his wife and their Persian cat. He also has big plans for the property – including creating a “cannabis oasis” in the home and using it to host lavish company events.
Not to make light of serious events, but after hosting satanic parties at which the owner impregnated his own daughter it seems a bit of a step down to hold company events there, no matter how lavish.
 

version

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John Huston's character in Chinatown takes on new significance when you consider he was mates with Hodel.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Huston probably thought he was playing the good guy, a perfectly normal incestuous paedo who manages to stop a snooping shamus from sticking his oar in and gets a justifiably happy ending.
 
On cruise and Kidman’s acting - I found it really irritating and stiff to the point I was shouting at the TV. I read Kubrick’s technique was to force hundreds of takes to deliberately kill their energy for performance, their exhaustion and frustration bleeding through. And apparently he fucked with their heads a bit by getting them to confess fantasies and insecurities separately
 

luka

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I do think it's a great film but I never remember anything about films I watch or books I read. Nothing sticks at all.
 
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