Moments in Film

sadmanbarty

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this is a goodun.

when my mum first started going out with her boyfriend i was insanely either jealous or just uncomfortable with it. i'd have this explosive, hulk-like anger tantrums at the situation. this captures that and its aftermath so well.

it's wish fulfilment on the one hand; imagine being able to be that vile, to be able to make your mum's boyfriend as hurt as a jew in the home of a neo-nazi.

but then it shows that awful isolating bit afterwards. he's hurt his family. he's just left alone with his anger. it speaks to a poor boy barty who's just flown off the handle and ruined the family holiday by attacking mum's boyfriend. the boyfriend's run away. mum's weeping saying she'll have to break up with him. sister thinks your a cunt.

genius astute bit of film.

 

sadmanbarty

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a perfect advertisement for the american ideal; gun ownership and racism.

the gun as a democratising tool. the equaliser.

the myth of "the good guy with a gun".

superheroes for 'adults'.

"ever noticed every once in a while you come accross someone you shouldn't have fucked with"

 

version

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this is a goodun.

when my mum first started going out with her boyfriend i was insanely either jealous or just uncomfortable with it. i'd have this explosive, hulk-like anger tantrums at the situation. this captures that and its aftermath so well.

it's wish fulfilment on the one hand; imagine being able to be that vile, to be able to make your mum's boyfriend as hurt as a jew in the home of a neo-nazi.

but then it shows that awful isolating bit afterwards. he's hurt his family. he's just left alone with his anger. it speaks to a poor boy barty who's just flown off the handle and ruined the family holiday by attacking mum's boyfriend. the boyfriend's run away. mum's weeping saying she'll have to break up with him. sister thinks your a cunt.

genius astute bit of film.


Elliott Gould's face at the end of that scene once all the antisemitic stuff starts being thrown at him is heartbreaking. Predictably the comments on the vid are full of complete idiots saying Norton's right.
 

version

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That Clint Eastwood scene is ridiculous. Apparently he wrote a threesome for himself in his new one.

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sadmanbarty

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awful music aside, this is another explosive anger one. that thing of him biting his nose has stuck with me for years (i only saw it once maybe 10 years ago). it's my go to violent fantasy.

it also really encapsulates that really dark part of the working class whose lives are just these perpetually open wounds. just living from one disaster to the next in front of everyone to see. i've got family just like this (with kids involved and all that). really grim.

it's filmed near where me and luke live.

 

version

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I find him in general a dull film maker, as he's completely mad, but the beginning of Aguirre is so perfect, and so utterly as I had imagined it prior to seeing the film, that it brings a tear to my eye. Sound, vision and ambition.

 
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version

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The one they did for Nosferatu was good too. The shots of the bat hanging in the air, the misty mountains.

0:40.

 
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version

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Herzog has some real moments in his films, but I think his documentaries are more entertaining. There's stuff like the opening of Aguirre and certain sections of Nosferatu but they're surrounded by tedious, amateurish filler which seems to drag on and on. The newer stuff like Rescue Dawn and Bad Lieutenant is pretty watchable, but even the highly regarded stuff like Stroszek is a bit of a snooze.

One thing I like about his documentaries is how you see something like Encounters at the End of the World and go "ah, a nature documentary" then it's much more about the weirdos who live and work out in Antarctica along with the wildlife and environment.
 

luka

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Herzog is a plodder for sure. Mistakes torpor of spirit for intellect. That native German stodge.
 

version

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It's a refreshing take on vampirism too. Kinski's Dracula cuts a pretty pitiful figure in comparison to Schreck, Lugosi and Lee.

Time is an abyss... profound as a thousand nights... Centuries come and go... To be unable to grow old is terrible... Death is not the worst... Can you imagine enduring centuries, experiencing each day the same futilities...
 

sadmanbarty

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this is maybe my favourite scene in all of film. absolutely heartbreaking. stallone's complete inability to speak the english language really works well in this context, it comes across as completely distraught.

the first rambo's an interesting bridge between two eras of cinema. it comes at the very end of the 70's era of character examinations and that really is the engine of this film. but then of course it's stallone and muscles and guns and explosions and it's ushering in the age of action muscle men. the other rambos don't have the pathos of this one, it's what gives the whole franchise heart.

 

version

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"The real hero of Jaws is the mayor," Mr Johnson said last year in a speech at Lloyd's of London.

"A gigantic fish is eating all your constituents and he decides to keep the beaches open. OK, in that instance he was actually wrong. But in principle, we need more politicians like the mayor - we are often the only obstacle against all the nonsense which is really a massive conspiracy against the taxpayer."

This looks great in light of his coronavirus response.

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sadmanbarty

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this is great. travolta's perfect. characterisation's great; the gran stroking him on the arm when it all kicks off. the little sister using all the madness as an opportunity to be cheeky. really good

 
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