60's Dad Canon Psychedelia

padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
luka said:
Not heard this gods thing before. Enjoyed it. Cool doors rip off. Got that incantatory quality I like.
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lmao they were around before the Doors. but I'm glad you enjoyed it.

(had to get that in, as a noted Doors hater. I don't know if English people can really grasp the terribleness of the Doors. or the Eagles)

the Godz aren't something I listen to very often but they're pretty cool. very lo-fi, heading to noise rock, etc avant la lettre.

like they aesthetically fit right in with Flipper, but also early Sebadoh, and so on
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
sufi said:
but! there was on that 1st LP "Interstellar overdrive" a singular track representing the pulsating throbbing kaleidoscopic drone manifestation of psychedelia. late 80s i saw hawkwind cover it with full oil lamp swirling lightshow etc and that for me was one end of that particular continuum (the crusty end). meanwhile there were kind of neo-interstellaroverdrive-ists like loop and spacemen3 who pushed the swirling heavy guitar drone to another sonic extreme
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sufi that whole post was tight but especially this bit

this is exactly what I mean by you have to look at the aftereffects not the thing itself

I always say virtually all the cool things people think happened in the 70s in music (and film) actually happened in the 70s, and the 80s in this case
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
bassbeyondreason said:
Seems like Hendrix is the big omission in this thread so far, stuff like 1983 or 3rd stone from the sun....
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1983 being a huge Dissensus touchstone, of course

I use this example all the time, I'm sure I have here: I cannot conceive of any music that would blow my mind the way Hendrix blew people's minds ca. 67

his psychedelic bonafides have to be the most solid of all the dad canon I think.

what you mentioned as well as Machine Gun. there's probably one or two others we're missing.
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
tho his most important achievement was inventing the vocabulary and syntax of heavy guitars. not him alone or out of nothing ofc, but really him. no one else.

and heavy guitars often cross over with psychedelic guitars, tho they are not the same thing
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
a few to add to bassbeyondreason, in the same great but not popular enough to be dad canon, tho some are well known to head/collector types

mostly in the psych rather than psychedelic vein, tho some are headed for the latter

generally on the way blown out and/or proto-punk vein (esp psychedelic punk, which is def one of my sweet spots)

way fuzzed out 4 chord apocalypse ranting

as mentioned by martin upthread

whence term groupings like "psych garage punk"

blown out enough to be kinda psychedelic, definitely in the heavy psych vein
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
padraig (u.s.) said:
looking at the OP, I see Barty + I agree on "Tomorrow Never Knows" as being fundamentally different from most 60s dad canon psychedelia, so clearly there's some common ground
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It's an interesting thing that most of the dad canon bands had a load of stuff that we'd code as not really psychedelic - normally whimsical pop or blues rock - and one or two things that we generally would. So Piper at the Gates had Interstellar Overdrive as well as Bike, The Beatles did Tomorrow Never Knows and Revolution #9 as well as Lovely Rita, Hendrix and Cream both flip between straight muscular heavy blues and spaced-out fuzz-wah odyssies.
 
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bassbeyondreason

Chtonic Fatigue Syndrome
A lot of the early "synth psych" stuff is still pretty mindbending. Not so much The United States of America, but some of the Silver Apples stuff, and stuff like:

From '71, primitive drum-machine proto-industrial nightmare:
 
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