chava
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Terre Thaemlitz -- DJ Sprinkles
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I didn't find them so but I am knackered and grumpy today so who knows. It reminded me of people I know who can be in continual critique mode, it just gets wearing to be around at some points. I liked how he highlighted sex as a source of joy though. I thought the comments about transitioning (or choosing not to) were v interesting as well
Actually this seems spot on to me - I don't tend to comment on this stuff much as I'm an absolute outsider and the last thing trans people need is more straights with opinions but:
If you’re seeing that the overwhelming majority of people experiencing gender crises under patriarchy are aligned with the feminine, then, from a sociological viewpoint that’s all the more proof that what we’re dealing with is a feminist crisis, a gender crisis that for most is rooted in the social, rooted in the material.
If you’re seeing that the overwhelming majority of people experiencing gender crises under patriarchy are aligned with the feminine, then, from a sociological viewpoint that’s all the more proof that what we’re dealing with is a feminist crisis, a gender crisis that for most is rooted in the social, rooted in the material.
version
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I'm unsure how to take some of what she says as he seems sincere, but then some of the stuff said doesn't make sense as a sincere position when you look at her behaviour, e.g. being friends with people who have kids whilst also claiming having kids makes you a bad/unethical person.
There's a comment about disagreeing with the idea of authorship in the film which I found interesting too, given how tightly he controls her work. The film didn't go into it deeply enough to know whether it's really a contradiction, mind you.
Really liked the Bugs Bunny commentary at the start of the film. Everyone should at least watch that bit.
There's a comment about disagreeing with the idea of authorship in the film which I found interesting too, given how tightly he controls her work. The film didn't go into it deeply enough to know whether it's really a contradiction, mind you.
Really liked the Bugs Bunny commentary at the start of the film. Everyone should at least watch that bit.
WashYourHands
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Always knew Elmer Fudd was a cock
All pretty boredom inducing isn't it. Finally a critical theorist for the bourgeois subjects of dance music. What's the point?
I know I'll get shot down for this but opposing the heteronormative family to the family you choose is equally as insipid and fails to understand the necessity of family within class societies. You want to abolish the family? learn to handle a firearm, not give lectures at artforum.
But even then, self-professed movements which claim to subert the patriarchy end up being pretty culty and, well, patriarchal. The PKK/YPG is a good example of this. If family abolition occurs it will occur through demographic and the violent clashes of impersonal forces with each other, not through a manifesto or 10.
'Heteronormativity' is also a concept that has been heavily coded by the relatively affluent queers of the West. Of course it exists in other cultures as a necessary outgrowth of private property but the framings differ.
Are queers inherently revolutionary? I don't think so. Neither are us disabled people. I don't think one can pick a group at random and schematise a revolutionary consciousness to them. Even the working class is not immediately revolutionary in terms of consciousness (quite the contrary.) There is nothing to say that the oppressed can't also oppress others themselves, which is even more reason to dispense with this American sub-maoist tripe. If anything, the majority of actively politicised queer consciousness is totally reformist and at least in the west, latently unaware of how deep the politics of their nation state actors are implicated in imperialism. Same goes for disability politics, which is why I decided to take a step back. An inability to connect struggles internationally is the terminal noose that choaks the activists neck.
If Sprinkles is in dialogue with this stuff then it seems odd that she doesn't reference bale funk, gqom, batita, etc, but retreats to the whitest of white of dance music establishments, RA/FACT orientated deep house nostalgia. Yes, she might have been playing to multiracial crowds in Miami in 1991-1992, but just because house sold out, didn't mean that Black and brown people stopped making dance music. And again its her prerogative to operate in that magazine house zone, but why the need for this overintellectualising, as if everyone else in dance music is uncritical.
EDIT: I'm well aware that there are more multiracial/working class deep house scenes but they sure as hell aren't in the orbit of people who read these mags.
I know I'll get shot down for this but opposing the heteronormative family to the family you choose is equally as insipid and fails to understand the necessity of family within class societies. You want to abolish the family? learn to handle a firearm, not give lectures at artforum.
But even then, self-professed movements which claim to subert the patriarchy end up being pretty culty and, well, patriarchal. The PKK/YPG is a good example of this. If family abolition occurs it will occur through demographic and the violent clashes of impersonal forces with each other, not through a manifesto or 10.
'Heteronormativity' is also a concept that has been heavily coded by the relatively affluent queers of the West. Of course it exists in other cultures as a necessary outgrowth of private property but the framings differ.
Are queers inherently revolutionary? I don't think so. Neither are us disabled people. I don't think one can pick a group at random and schematise a revolutionary consciousness to them. Even the working class is not immediately revolutionary in terms of consciousness (quite the contrary.) There is nothing to say that the oppressed can't also oppress others themselves, which is even more reason to dispense with this American sub-maoist tripe. If anything, the majority of actively politicised queer consciousness is totally reformist and at least in the west, latently unaware of how deep the politics of their nation state actors are implicated in imperialism. Same goes for disability politics, which is why I decided to take a step back. An inability to connect struggles internationally is the terminal noose that choaks the activists neck.
If Sprinkles is in dialogue with this stuff then it seems odd that she doesn't reference bale funk, gqom, batita, etc, but retreats to the whitest of white of dance music establishments, RA/FACT orientated deep house nostalgia. Yes, she might have been playing to multiracial crowds in Miami in 1991-1992, but just because house sold out, didn't mean that Black and brown people stopped making dance music. And again its her prerogative to operate in that magazine house zone, but why the need for this overintellectualising, as if everyone else in dance music is uncritical.
EDIT: I'm well aware that there are more multiracial/working class deep house scenes but they sure as hell aren't in the orbit of people who read these mags.
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Sure but this is what I'm saying. If the family is destroyed, it will be because history will make it outdated, not because a few hippies decide to set up a commune.
wektor
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I eventually liked the structure of the RA doc but the way it's put forth at the beginning, ie. pretentious instruction-like scheme unnecessarily put me off.
Also it would seem she believes she is more of a naysayer than she actually is, doesn't look like a nihilist to me at all, but on the other hand I cannot imagine the sort of experiences of pre/adult life she describes not making one bitter.
Also it would seem she believes she is more of a naysayer than she actually is, doesn't look like a nihilist to me at all, but on the other hand I cannot imagine the sort of experiences of pre/adult life she describes not making one bitter.
Yes. I also don't believe house sold out. Or at vleast not relative to other music forms. Did funk sell out jazz? or disco sell out rnb. or psychedelic rock sell out garage rock? There's always been a vocal component to house, especially the strictly rhythm end of it. Ironically if you wanted strictly rhythms, you'd have to look to early nu groove.
It's all a very convenient branding narritive, which is why I fail to take the idea of 'the real deal' as anything other than hyperbole. Maybe its not calculated per se but ultimately he/she is shifting a product.
Funny thing about this: a former friends was telling me about how they knew a serious avant-jazzer type who absolutely could not stand disco when it blew up and actually resented it for depriving him of gig opportunity. There'll always be naysayers in music, this is why I never got on with that midtown album.
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chava
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most likely if technology will make it outdated. the pill had the potential, but failed. Let's see what the xenofeminists can do: https://xenofeminism.org/manifesto
chava
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If you strip all the context and theory, and look at Terre's ability to sculpt sound in a pure musical/soundscape-y way it is very impressive and even immersive, even though he/she (WHAT IS IT? SOMEONE HELP ME!!) would disagree completely.
Remember listening casually to the radikal ambient releases back in the 90s and really hating them for being to "clean" and digital. Now I can listen to them over and over just going in and out of "theoretical listening mode" and pure bliss.
Remember listening casually to the radikal ambient releases back in the 90s and really hating them for being to "clean" and digital. Now I can listen to them over and over just going in and out of "theoretical listening mode" and pure bliss.
WashYourHands
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Post Traumatic Embitterment Disorder
What is Post Traumatic Embitterment Disorder (PTED) and how is this condition associated with bullying at work and stress
www.nationalbullyinghelpline.co.uk
edit would add that being fucked over at work and repeated undermining encounters during early years are very different