Political Samples

version

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How effective are they? Are they too 'on the nose'?

There's a Not Waving 12" which samples Trump and a bunch of students shouting at Salvini which has been billed as "a reminder to dance and laugh at the populist peckers that dominate global politics right now" with the wider point that "acts of subversive defiance such as this, encouraging dissent and ridicule of pompous right wing blowhards - and no matter how small in the wider scheme of things - have never been so vitally required in the modern day" but listening to it I didn't really feel much of an impact, if anything it seemed a bit flippant and superficial.

Has anyone managed to pull it off?
 

version

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Some of luka's criticism of Sprinkles reminded me that there's a Mark Fell remix of Fennesz where he samples MLK's Dream speech. Will Long used samples of Obama, Richard Pryor and a few other people in his Long Trax too.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
That sort of thing on a 12" single is a) preaching to the choir and b) preaching to a VERY SMALL choir.
 

martin

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Find it a bit trite, personally. Like you're supposed to be sitting there on headphones, nodding sagely as MLK imparts his words of wisdom...seconds before Willie D kicks in, complaining about bald-headed hoes.

Then there was that godawful Spiral Tribe record with the AIM guy.

Right-wing nutter samples are always good, though. Test Dept. with that pompous Tory windbag... Fallout and the militia bloke ranting about how you can't pop outside without running into homosexuals...that Big Black one with the nazi, etc.
 

version

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I quite like that BMB tune with the Jim Jones sample, but that seems more of an 'edgy' thing than them making any sort of substantial statement.

 
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Mr. Tea

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*guiltily raises hand*

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DannyL

Wild Horses
keith leblanc no sell out

The Malcom X record on On U, Fats Comet? , some Tackhead as well. I've not heard anything contemporary that does this well which is surprising really. Perhaps a sign that political discourse is much more fractured these days.
 

DannyL

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I'll tentatively say that we have such a more sophisticated culture around sonics these days, that this sort of thing is hard to do without t seeming crude, didactic.
 

blissblogger

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it's an industrial culture thing isn't it - i think Cabaret Voltaire were one of the first, using televangelists taped of the TV while on their first tour of America


but here not in a overbearing way, very subtle and effective I think

probably there's earlier examples in pop or rock but i can't think of them offhand
 

blissblogger

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not quite the same thing but (going with the industrial kulture theme) Laibach use vocal modes that belong to the 'genre' of political speech as it were (demagogic, exhortatory, rallying, uplifting etc etc) without necessarily being sampled in origin

Kapital is one of their better records, got turned onto it by Ian from Moon Wiring Club, who says he was influenced by the way vocal soundbites are deployed

 

version

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There was that moment when a few people thought Burial had come out as trans because he sampled one of the Wachowskis at the end of a tune.

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version

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There's that sample of Tomi Lahren attacking Beyonce over Jay-Z selling crack in Drug Dealer's Anonymous.


And I dunno if it's an actual member of the public or something they just did for the tune, but there's that skit in the middle of Shutdown with the caller complaining about being intimidated seeing grime mcs on stage at the Brits.

 
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firefinga

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How effective are they? Are they too 'on the nose'?

There's a Not Waving 12" which samples Trump and a bunch of students shouting at Salvini which has been billed as "a reminder to dance and laugh at the populist peckers that dominate global politics right now" with the wider point that "acts of subversive defiance such as this, encouraging dissent and ridicule of pompous right wing blowhards - and no matter how small in the wider scheme of things - have never been so vitally required in the modern day" but listening to it I didn't really feel much of an impact, if anything it seemed a bit flippant and superficial.

Has anyone managed to pull it off?

They hardly have any influence - if there's a "preaching to the converted"-trope it's this.

Nevertheless, the following is one of the first of that kind:

 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Some of luka's criticism of Sprinkles reminded me that there's a Mark Fell remix of Fennesz where he samples MLK's Dream speech. Will Long used samples of Obama, Richard Pryor and a few other people in his Long Trax too.

Long Trax is the shit. The sprinkles mixes take it up another level tho.
 

Leo

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Long Trax is the shit. The sprinkles mixes take it up another level tho.

I have that 2cd, listened to it for months before realizing that it's essentially slightly remixed variations of the same track over and over. not saying that's a bad thing, I like the album, but it's all pretty much one track repeated. some parts drop out on one version, other parts gently pumped up on another, layered with different samples.

maybe I'm imagining it, but it sure sounds the same. and good.
 
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