vietnam vets and dark disco

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dominic

Beast of Burden
we all know about rick davis and cybotron

however, i've been rocking this track by leisure process as of late, called "company c," released on epic in 1983 -- really ultra far gone dance track

and i'm also keen on aku aku's "the night belongs to charlie," released on shatter records in 1984, w/ production by timmy regisford and boyd jarvis of shelter fame

so i'm beginning to think i've developed a taste for dance music rooted in the vietnam war experience

(will be interesting to see if iraq war vets make any cool records)

can anybody here recommend other tracks belonging to this "genre"?
 
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puretokyo

Mercury Blues
sorry to go slightly off-point here - does anyone know what drugs iraqi soldiers are doing? presumably not psychedelics? painkillers? ecstasy? what kind of music is going to represent this period in films made in 15 years time? instead of 'the end', i suspect our 'apocalypse now' will feature 'ms jackson' and 'drop it like its hot'.
 
Grievous Angel

Grievous Angel

Beast of Burden
Dark Disco -- oh yes, what a great idea, I'm there!

I've been obsessed with dark, pagan disco / house for the last month or more...
 
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mms

sometimes
2stepfan said:
Dark Disco -- oh yes, what a great idea, I'm there!

I've been obsessed with dark, pagan disco / house for the last month or more...
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Tell us more?
 
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cooper

Well-known member
puretokyo said:
sorry to go slightly off-point here - does anyone know what drugs iraqi soldiers are doing? presumably not psychedelics? painkillers? ecstasy?
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in the mid-late 90s heyday of rave it was not uncommon to see off-duty soldiers rolling at raves in NC - especially around Fayetteville where Ft. Bragg is located. kind of bizarre, yeah? love people all weekend, train to kill them all week... amphetamines are relatively safe for soldiers facing random drug tests, too, since they leave your system completely in a matter of a few days.

i don't think there's any drug soldiers love to do so much as good old alcohol, though.

or were you asking about the iraqis?
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
Is it just me? I think all disco is pretty dark. with the exception of the very saccharine pop tracks (even some of those), disco has this deep sadness to it. this brooding, desperate longing for something unattainable... this lonely (very lonely) unsatisfied desire and repressed libidinal energy drives the music.

but when I think of dark disco I think of Black Strobe and Bangkok Impact and the Creme Org boys...

the Iraqi war will have a soundtrack with Limp Biscuit and M&M...
 
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D84

Well-known member
puretokyo said:
sorry to go slightly off-point here - does anyone know what drugs iraqi soldiers are doing? presumably not psychedelics? painkillers? ecstasy? what kind of music is going to represent this period in films made in 15 years time? instead of 'the end', i suspect our 'apocalypse now' will feature 'ms jackson' and 'drop it like its hot'.
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I saw a documentary around the time of the US Air Force "friendly fire" incidents all about how pilots and other parts of the US military are encouraged to take amphetamine pills to make them more gung ho, trigger happy etc. I wish I could remember what it was called.

The soldiers wandering around Saddams palace when Baghdad was invaded looked pretty spaced out - but there could have been a number of reasons for that...
 
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Omaar

Guest
I've posted here on this before, but it seems relevant, I think the old thread has been archived now:

When I meet them one morning at 10am they already stink of "tannar" - the paint thinners and glue that they sniff in bags. A small medicine bottle costs 1,000 dinars ($1). The only girl in Ala's gang, a skinny, filthy child probably in her early teens, is clasping a full bottle. What they really like, when they can get it, is "capsils". They list the pills you can buy on the streets, especially by the Babb al Sharq, the Eastern Gate: "pinks" and "Lebanese", "eyebrows" and "crosses", "reds" and "Syrians". Most of all, what these children like is a drug they call Artane, Baghdad's most popular intoxicant.

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American soldiers traumatised by fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan are to be offered the drug ecstasy to help free them of flashbacks and recurring nightmares.

The US food and drug administration has given the go-ahead for the soldiers to be included in an experiment to see if MDMA, the active ingredient in ecstasy, can treat post-traumatic stress disorder.

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WASHINGTON — U.S. jet fighter pilots, responsible for at least 10 deadly "friendly fire" accidents in the Afghanistan war, have regularly been given amphetamines to fly longer hours.

Then when they return to base, the pilots are given sedatives by air force doctors to help them sleep, before beginning the whole cycle again on the next mission, often less than 12 hours later.

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Not sure what impact these drugs have on what people in or recently out of a war zone would listen to.

Or produce ... maybe there's an underground artane fuelled western/middle-eastern hybrid club culture going on in baghdad.
 
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Omaar

Guest
Still off on a tangent ...

"In a practice strikingly similar to the medieval cult of the Assassins, who used hashish to conjure up images of paradise in their suicidal attackers and trained them in remote mountain strongholds, the terrorists lure discontented young men with money and promises of glory for indoctrination.

“It’s a long process to brainwash them. They seduce them with money, then start to use drugs on them until they are half conscious,” Colonel Sultan said. The main drug used on the would-be bombers is Artane, an anti-psychotic prescription drug frequently abused by looters to give them a sense of invulnerability."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1046628,00.html
 
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Omaar

Guest
More on Iraqi drug use ...

"In al-Bataween - the worst of Baghdad's badlands which is blighted by carjackings and crime - residents say heroin is being traded in the alleys. "In Iraq there were no drugs until March 2003," said Salah Sha'amikh, a pharmacist. "You would be hanged for trafficking. But now you can get heroin, cocaine, anything." "

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.... and the music scene in Iraq:

" ...a new music video introduced on state TV yesterday featured Abul Waleed, commander of a feared police commando unit, saying: "We will cut off the arms of insurgents."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002286214_iraq24.html
 
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