catalog

Well-known member
Surprised by that tbh. It seems like the kind of thing Dissensus would group in with Radiohead/sad whiteboy electronica.

i'm not sure what i think of darkstar. i think they are genuine. they did a concept album about huddersfield. rubbish unfortunately. that particular tune is one of those crossover ones though, that literally everyone likes. that hook is great. but i don't think they've done a single other good tune.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
has someone already said that xanax is a palindrome? so will reflect off a screen with no problem in legibility? Surely that is part of the thought behind the name?

Also it has youth appeal. It sounds cool. I don't think this is by chance.
 

catalog

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"there's an emotional component to all this. the idea that the exterior world is a pain to be mitigated. the popularity of opioid crisis-music speaks to this."

And that in mitigating it you create interior conditions which are actively blissful provided they are not imposed upon by the outside bitch don't kill my vibe.

Jealously guarding these bubbles of self contained good feeling. Solipsistic bliss. Sucking your own cock.

yeah xanax is basically the fentanyl related thing right? the downer. i think there's two things to notice here:

1. downers are more popular than uppers cos there's too much information. so this is the same as what luka's saying, just slightly different spin.

2. it's the downers that kill, not the uppers. the crash. so they're a more complete death drive.
 

catalog

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I've never tried xanax, but I've taken valium and it's brilliant, a bit like being drunk without the sloshy, gassy, bloated feeling you get from drinking loads. Everything just felt nice, how it should be all the time.

i took some valium once with my mate, who had got a load from india. we went to the 'psychedelic dream temple' in camden in about 2007 and it's just like you say version. everything was just fine. it was the typical london drama - we had to get night buses. it was all to busy, music was kak etc, but none of that seemed to matter, had a great night. the next night, i stayed with another mate who's a doctor and told him about it and he got really upset/angry, said he saw loads of ppl all day with valium addictions, was a massive problem etc...

never had xanax either - all i remember was being at 'fusion' in germany in 2015 and the hype man for this weird grotesque wrestling troupe was walking round for ages asking, shouting, begging for it. eventually he got a sign round his neck, just saying 'xanax wanted' or something similar, cos he lost his voice. he wanted it for the bus back to england.
 

luka

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I've never taken any of these drugs. The prescription drug epidemic seems more an American thing but maybe I'm missing what's under my nose. I was just treating it as a metaphor
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
yeah xanax is basically the fentanyl related thing right?

Yes but fentanyl is many orders of magnitude stronger than valium or xanax.

1. downers are more popular than uppers cos there's too much information. so this is the same as what luka's saying, just slightly different spin.

The pros mix the two. The speedball being the most famous example.

I've never taken any of these drugs. The prescription drug epidemic seems more an American thing but maybe I'm missing what's under my nose. I was just treating it as a metaphor

Valium is a huge problem in Scotland or generally anywhere with a big heroin problem.
 

luka

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But equally when you have hit a seam of gold anyone getting in the way has to be stamped on eliminated as an enemy of the people ruthlessly rubbed out and exterminated.
 

catalog

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i mean, it's a bit over my head, cos i don't know the full history of things. i mean i know you own the forum, but you gotta let others chat as well. just scroll past. that's the power you've got.
 

sadmanbarty

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it does seem to be that the people who have been the targets of these fixations empathise with how frustrating it is and those who haven't don't see what the big fuss is about which is fair enough.

i'll try better not to get annoyed by it
 

sadmanbarty

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That infantile asocialism. Having a tantrum in public with no Shame. Banging on endlessly about Pepa pig without questioning whether mum gives a shit.

Anxiety and panic are means of control. Xanax dampens them. In that, you may have the answer to carols question; how can Xanaxbe weaponsied.

No I'm not joking. I love what Kano's doing. Asserting the old east end values when kids were brought up right and people had standards. Jamaican grandmas giving you a smack on the backside if you were rude.

social anxiety is a means of control; it enforces conformity.

if you dampen it, you inhibit it's ability impose conformity.

these people are shameless. they can't speak, the dress like women, sill hair, silly noises.

that's the pool of insurgents carol needs to enlist for her revolution. the very sedateness intended to impose order has ended up completely destroying the social contracct. cultural anarchy.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Xanax is lovely. Really fun to do it a few hours at least before you actually want to sleep (which is what we were using it for, having done pills and gear etc.). It makes you feel physically lovely and more importantly it relaxes you mentally, takes all worries away. Kind of the opposite of weed (for me). My ideal drug really.
 

other_life

bioconfused
I just think you guys are trying to read future too heavily through our nuum backgrounds where you'd really have to faithfully read it through that horrible blink182 tosh. weatus teenage dirtbag etc. it's the transposition of the teenage hormonal character to hip hop. it sells to people still too afraid of black masculinity and people who see the black drug taker as the noble savage (I'm sorry I have to put it in these terms.).

this is a dead on description of the stuff that's most unnerving and dead/deadening, 100 gecs and the self consciously 'emo' shit. it's a loud valorisation of something we should be ashamed of
it can't last.
 

luka

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Xanax is lovely. Really fun to do it a few hours at least before you actually want to sleep (which is what we were using it for, having done pills and gear etc.). It makes you feel physically lovely and more importantly it relaxes you mentally, takes all worries away. Kind of the opposite of weed (for me). My ideal drug really.

You can see how that could play into a cultural conservatism and cocooning. Solely intent on preserving the solipsistic bliss bubble
 

catalog

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this is why the tricky/HW refs strike me as a bit odd. they are weed not xanax, surely? but maybe they do zanny as well i dunno
 

other_life

bioconfused
like any aesthetic it can be over done, there needs to be balance.

so with all this xanax rap you actually get these sedate instrumentals being paired with these incredibly dynamic raps. whack a mole rapping. the sound of neurons sparking.

this is the shit i like. but when it's just 100% on the sedate rhythm it's horrifying, marching/plodding stuff
 

other_life

bioconfused
Crunk also has this dual time effect by combining codeine with hard liquor.

oh you're absolutely right. felli fel 'get buck in here'. early gucci ie 'pillz', early future ie 'tony montana' 'same damn time'. this is where the dynamism of the best stuff comes from. polysubstance abuse...
 
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