audible seams in deliberate reaction to the Xanax Zone

[sadmanbarty]

The disaccosiative future relates to technology no longer affecting our physical environments but our cognitive ones. It’s no longer the nuclear apocalypse future of the Cold War, but one of Chinese patent theft, cyber attacks, disinformation, hacking, deepfakes.

The frontiers of the future are of the mind, not the body. Of information, not the physical

 

[sadmanbarty]

Inception

 

[sadmanbarty]

The past was seen feminine and nurturing while the future was masculine and cold. Modern rap’s penchant for pastoral instrumentals goes against this; a Caroline lucas future.

Avatar likewise. I bet lots of video games too. Virtual reality headsets with pastoral landscapes

 

[sadmanbarty]

modern rap contains within it both the pathology and the medicine if the modern age. The raps are the pathology; flickering fragmented thoughts, incapable of holding onto trail of thoughts, multiple-personalities. A racing mind. An overstimulated mind. A million tabs open. Refreshing for new tweets over and over.

But then you have these ambient instrumentals; there to sooth and mitigate the effects of the rap.

 

[blissblogger]

my-now classic-aphorism “the only thing that distinguishes innovation from novelty is whether people copy it or not”.

this classic aphorism dovetails neatly with my concept of positive unoriginality, i.e. what you really want to happen with an innovation is for loads and loads of technically proficient, craft-not-art types to copy it, in the process installing it as a culture-wide template

a.k.a. how the sound of the radio changes

the second-order talents play their part, in its way as invaluable as the genius coming up with the genius idea in the first place

as you imply, a Timbaland without Timbaland-imitators would not be nearly so consequential a figure

well i suppose Cher "Believe" versus 21st Century rap is a good example of a gimmick becoming a zeitgeist

David Bowie had a nice quote on this, something like "what really matters is who did something second". justifying his modus operandus of course.

i think it's been discussed on here before, but the paths not taken idea is a fascinating one - tracks that could have been a whole future, if anyone had followed their pointers

 

[blissblogger]

apart from a valium a long long time ago, which didn't seem to have any effect that i could discern, I've never taken an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication

and taking cough syrup when you have a cough doesn't really count

so i'm wondering if anyone can talk with experience about the leisure use of these drugs

how do they interface with music? particularly the kind of music that incessantly references xans and perkys etc, but other kinds of music

what's the difference between taking the prescribed dose, for self-medication purposes, and taking presumably much larger amounts, for hedonistic purposes

then there must be endless permutations of experience when you get into polydrug combinations and interactions

I've not come across any serious writing about this, at least from the inside of the experience - nor indeed any kind of anecdotal or memoiristic writing. Which is pretty odd given that there was a such a huge literature on MDMA and its interface with music, its cultural ramifications.... plenty of writing about cocaine... endless memoirs about being a junkie

 

[other_life]

dxm was good until it was horrible. i would quit and revisit it and the last time was just horrid. nonsensical fever dreams. being stretched in two directions.
it's as if i'd run out of good experiences i could have with it, by virtue of aging, by virtue of being in a different place?
"once you get the message, hang up the phone."
the closed eye visuals and 'hallucinations' are like the stereotypical 'psychedelic geometry', but with none of the color, and completely angle-joining-to-angle, not at all bubbly or porous. it's a very mechanised, rubbery morphogenetic (is this correct?) space. it's a zone without people.
the period when i abused dxm was also when i swore barter 6 was one of my favorite records of the 2010s. now i'm kind of cooled to it because of how much it's been imitated, frankly (the 'novelty becomes innovation by imitation' thing)
the dissociative uncertainty of this track, in particular, captures dxm. the stretchiness and bubbliness of the synth. (there's tension there, actually. it's not completely smooth. it's off.) the defensive pose of it. the quiet paranoia.

 

[other_life]

i think i was always too paranoid ab interactions w the meds i was on (hrt and prozac) to mix dxm w anything else
i think i was given benzos once because i was actually having a panic attack
but the thing is, i don't want to be medicated in that way. if i'm anxious, i want to lean into that feeling. work through it. be active. troubleshoot, problem solve.

 

[sadmanbarty]

the closed eye visuals and 'hallucinations' are like the stereotypical 'psychedelic geometry', but with none of the color, and completely angle-joining-to-angle, not at all bubbly or porous. it's a very mechanised, rubbery morphogenetic (is this correct?) space. it's a zone without people.

This is how I’m hearing the newer style of rap. I’ve compared it before to intersecting teeth on cogs. Kaleidoscopes.

That inhumanity too. I compare these rappers more to drums (or really more abstract blips of information; I compared it to synapses sparking last week).

 

[other_life]

dj yo yo dieting was 10 years ahead of his time in the realist way

 

[luka]

More drugs stories please I love drugs stories

 

[other_life]

i beat zelda oracle of ages on dxm while listening to 0pn's rifts. the inexorable march of echoing juno loops on that compilation also joins nicely to dxm's Morphogenetic Space

 

[other_life]

there was a fuckload of discussion i missed over Settler Gorging Day weekend in the shallow rewards discord and i'm working through it now, they're talking mental health problems and the medication treadmill/hamster wheel
and this message is at the crux

"charYesterday at 9:30 PM
benzos don’t assist with plasticity at all
like they make people so rigid
and dependent"

benzodiazepenes as offering a seductive false plasticity and mutability. the 'bitch don't kill my vibe'/'stop breaking my immersion' pathology. and how this ramifies to the music my generation is making. thousands of barter 6 and dirty sprite 2 clones since 2015 alone. every trap bar cycling around the same gestural language. its 'chill' is actually 'anxious', its 'loose' is actually 'rigid'.

 

[thirdform]

More drugs stories please I love drugs stories

im bored of drugs tbh. that's why i like speed, it's not really a drug until you go on a proper bender and get psychotic. it's just mobilisation for war, paranoid schizophrenia to deal with the anxiety. lean into it, combat it, fight it, destroy it, conquer it, subsume it. the most gnostic person also believes religion is the opium of the masses. that's how they ascend to the 27th plateau. avant-garde psychedelia won't be found in tuning out but excessively tuning in.

 

[thirdform]

minimal coldness


but one can get even colder


the bugs crawling under the skin is the new normal, no longer the darkside.

get so associated to break through to the ultimate dissociation



life is a huge space arena, distance no longer matters

 

[luka]

im bored of drugs tbh. that's why i like speed, it's not really a drug until you go on a proper bender and get psychotic. it's just mobilisation for war, paranoid schizophrenia to deal with the anxiety. lean into it, combat it, fight it, destroy it, conquer it, subsume it. the most gnostic person also believes religion is the opium of the masses. that's how they ascend to the 27th plateau. avant-garde psychedelia won't be found in tuning out but excessively tuning in.

I'm not bored of them! If anyone has more prescription med abuse stories let me hear them! They're hilarious.

 

[sadmanbarty]

subaquatic.

our culture doesn't resist rising sea levels- it doesn't warn against them- but rather fetishises them. it's hypnotised by them. seapunk.

flooding the world to render it a womb; global warming creating an amniotic sac that we'll inhabit as we evolve from our embryonic stages of technological evolution.

the amphibious age. pepe the frog. the transitional stage between us and our david icke reptilian overlords.

the flood myth. the flood cleansed the world of sin once before. now it will cleanse the world of the nation state as it induces mass migration and encourages supranational organisation to address it. "boarderless". the leviathon. "convergence".

gentle waves lapping soothing disturbed souls. the flames of our passions extinguished and pacified. our agency subsumed.

 

[sadmanbarty]

that's sort of a version post; it's got 'into the sewers' in it, 'morphosis' and a video game reference.

 

[luka]

"Marine militarisation
Hendrix's "1983...(A Merman I Should Turn To Be)", Parliament's "I'm A Fish (And You're A Water Sign", Can's "Future Days", LTJ Bukem's "Atlantis (I Need You)", the late 90s Vincent Floyd*inspired Deep House of Aqua Bassino and 16B: all these are aquatopian. Aquatopias cradle and lull you into a deep end of placid angles. Like UR's X*103 Atlantis project, Drexciya paves over this underwater paradise, requisitions the Bermuda Triangle for a fifth theatre of war. Modern science knows more about the Red Planet than the abyssal plains of the deep sea. Therefore, these unknown depths are the appropriate environment for concepts secreted deep in track subtitles, impressed in the vinyl, hidden notions you have to dive for.
The Future feeds forward into the Past
The sleevenotes to The Quest CD are an origin story, a prequel that links genetic mutation to recent breakthroughs in liquid oxygen technology and retroacts both back to the Slave Trade. "During the greatest Holocaust the world has ever known, pregnant America*bound African slaves were thrown overboard by the thousands during labour for being sick and disruptive cargo. Is it possible that they could have given birth at sea to babies that never needed air? Are Drexciyans water*breathing aquatically mutated descendents of those unfortunate victims of human greed? Recent experiements have shown a premature human infant saved from certain death by breathing liquid oxyden through its underdeveloped lungs."
https://arena-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/1504716/07bb3bc69a5c41c0ea96b1874990f4a2.pdf?1513176216

 

[sadmanbarty]

them lot bloody love 1983 a merman i should be.

i'm on the phone to british gas to book a boiler service for my nan, but when i'm done i'll make a thread about it and we can really figure out how it enchanted that generation.