The Shining Ones

luka

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I read Lord of The Rings for the first time at Christmas. I had been reading it as a child but I was upset when Gandalf died on that bridge in the cave. a big monster kills him. he's not really dead but how was I supposed to know.
 

luka

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can't beleive you're equating below average height people with animals. a new low.
 
We can agree that the Hobbit films are wretched, though?
Same cinematic universe, same tropes, many of the same characters, same gorgeous landscapes, but for the most part just so utterly redundant and meandering and such a joyless cash-in. It could have been a single really good movie.
The first one's alright and I quite like the bit where Gandalf's confronted by Sauron, but yeah. There's so much fluff and the CGI's horrible. Also this is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen,

 

Corpsey

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If you look into it on youtube there's good reasons why The Hobbit films were so bad.

Unsurprisingly it more or less comes down to studio interference/pressure.

Peter Jackson didn't really want to make them, had his hand (sorta) forced by the studio canning Del Toro, made them up as he went along while getting no sleep, etc.

Everything was rushed, too, so you ended up with a bunch of weird, shitty CGI that didn't look remotely convincing compared to the CGI in films that came out 10 years earlier.

Obviously very interesting to compare how that trilogy was made as compared to LOTR. Makes the LOTR trilogy seem frankly miraculous, given the potential there was for the studio to stick its stupid oar in and fuck it all up.

The one scene in the whole Hobbit trilogy/debacle that makes me wish Peter Jackson could have had the right backing to make a Hobbit movie (or even movies, if he musthave) is the "riddles in the dark" scene, which is masterfully directed and performed (I often feel a bit ambiguous about Martin Freeman but I thought he was pretty perfectly cast here).
 

Mr. Tea

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I read that Smaug somehow transforms from a dragon to a wyvern (or vice-versa) from one film to the next. Smh.
 

Corpsey

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I read Lord of The Rings for the first time at Christmas. I had been reading it as a child but I was upset when Gandalf died on that bridge in the cave. a big monster kills him. he's not really dead but how was I supposed to know.

Did you like it?

I don't want to totally ruin this interesting thread by making it about lord of the rings, but i have to know
 

luka

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i wouldnt finish a book of over 1000 pages unless i was enjoying it
 
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IdleRich

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Peter Jackson didn't really want to make them, had his hand (sorta) forced by the studio canning Del Toro, made them up as he went along while getting no sleep, etc.
Seems a bit odd that he didn't want to make it but was forced to... and then went "Oh go on then I'll split it into two films and make them both 18 hours long".
 

woops

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i've been telling luka for a while the harry potter books are now canonised next to blake and dickens and he must read them
 

luka

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it's true. i will get round to it sooner or later. grapejuice was reading them a while back.
 
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