sadmanbarty

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there aren’t just direct contrasts, there’s an entire spectrum of brutalist -> pastoral sound contained in this one.

the synth's an old ringtone i think.

with that in mind you then actually get the pastoral, the concrete and the dematerialised all contained in this song.

(i just liked it because of the rubbish jamaican accent to be honest)
 

luka

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i love major ace. as far as i can tell he didn't too well in the grime era, but he was the highlight of those pay as u go sets.

I remember him pre grime. Garage days when Wiley was doing horrible drum and bass. "Run things like my name was Ceaser getting leaner off Bacardi Breezer" RIP Ace
 

sadmanbarty

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i like this sonically and lyrically but i can’t really describe it. triumphant yet dark and murky.


finally figured out what a lot of these beats remind me of lol


the instrumental from the first one was actually a chart hit with kano on the top, but i didn;'t post it because luke is the only person on planet earth who likes kano.

it's funny you should say about the screensaver as an oft-repeated thing of mine is that rap, grime and the hardcore continuum all turned to this synthetic tibres around the turn of the millenium. my middle brow, bbc 4 narrative about this is that it reflects the dot com bubble, but of course this music was made by the first generation who really grew up with widespread home computing and video games consoles (a lot of early grime was in fact made on ps1s).
 

luka

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Don't listen to him mvuent Kano is a major star the most famous out of all that generation even Bartys racist nan knows who he is and thinks he's handsome
 

sadmanbarty

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another cartoon physics thing is which frequency regions a beat occupies. here there’s a satisfying extreme, it feels mostly like highs and bass—which creates sense of pressure, that you being squeezed by the force being generated.

when i made this playlist i thought that song was fucking amazing.

in the autotune era, particularly in dancehall, there's a real currency in being incredibly shrill and cutting through; voices slicing like lazers. at its best it sounds like the gods/our alien overlords shooting these beams of light difrecting into your foreheard, your third eye openeing and getting a download directly from those who know all things.

the ride's in this tap into that.

i'd put this up with the best jungle. its absolutely brilliant. the sound of millenia-buried pyramids emerging through the ground as a new cosmic era is born.
 

sadmanbarty

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always exciting to hear music you know really well twisted and intensified in a live environment. partly just because it suggests that you haven’t seen anything yet—they’ll always have more cards up their sleeve.

this was supposed to be the last song! i thought it was a poignant and poetic ending on my part. wiley and dizz. sidewinder. its live setting suggesting an expanse out into the world. a tangible cultural influence not only being broadcast, but being received.

then i fucked it up by having one more!
 

sadmanbarty

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the first 3 seconds of this clip sound like the Hungarian electroacoustic from 100 years ago that luka was talking about.

really weird to have visuals. the blindfold finally off.

delivery-wise they look tense/stiff, exactly how i imagined from hearing the vocals in all the previous vids.

the bubbles. the splattering. very cartoon physics. (and of course in being so indebted to old video game music, crude foley art is in the dna of the music).

i suppose the visuals is a poetic ending. seeing the wizard of oz behind the curtain.
 

luka

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when i made this playlist i thought that song was fucking amazing.

in the autotune era, particularly in dancehall, there's a real currency in being incredibly shrill and cutting through; voices slicing like lazers. at its best it sounds like the gods/our alien overlords shooting these beams of light difrecting into your foreheard, your third eye openeing and getting a download directly from those who know all things.

the ride's in this tap into that.

i'd put this up with the best jungle. its absolutely brilliant. the sound of millenia-buried pyramids emerging through the ground as a new cosmic era is born.

Music where it feels like somethings being done to you. Alien abduction experiments. Room of cosmic plumbing. Recalibration. Roscoe Mitchell done a very high pitch solo to me once that was this.
 

sadmanbarty

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if someone said to me nova express is like book version of that d double one, i bet i would have got right into it. it would have clicked.
 

luka

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You had a very strong reaction to that. Thrashed about a bit for on first contact then disappeared for about three weeks!
 

sadmanbarty

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grime is the best interface for me to appreciate third's aesthetic framework i reckon. you may have noticed this playlist is very techy; its a thirdfrom vision of grime (or at least how i caricature third's listening habits). it ignores, or at least downplays, other sensibilities in grime.

so for example i did the cartoon physics thread after trying to find a way to get into the robo sodom on his top 100. unfortunately i wasn't able to get into them on what i (rightly or wrongly) assumed was there own terms. they weren't quite clicking as face melting and mind fucking. but they did as cartoons. gabba's kick drum is really bouncy. one of his tracks sounded like mutley's laugh.

and so here we are with this thread and its all coming as cartoon phsyics. bouncing and stretching and so forth. and as i said earlier in the thread, the grime mc's themselves are working within that. the silly voices (d double really does sound like a cartoon character) and likewise the slapstick tom and jerry violence.
 

sadmanbarty

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d double's amazing actually. his voice is cartoon physics. it's like gunge they'd have on childrens tv. you wade through it. it traps you like quick sand. and then there are bits where it's all stretchy.
 

sadmanbarty

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futher reading for mvuent:



and this one because i love demon. he jsut the says the same thing over and over again and everyone cheers. he's like a light entertainer. bruce forsyth saying "nice to see you":

 
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