IdleRich

IdleRich
More great Brexit news

The government’s next fleet of armoured ministerial cars will be made in Germany because supply chain issues hampered by Brexit mean no British manufacturer is able to meet its requirements, The Independent has learned.
The Metropolitan Police announced over the summer that it was ditching armoured Jaguar XJs for Baden-Württemberg-assembled Audi A8s – prompting criticism.
But it has now been revealed that the decision was made because there no British car maker is “able to meet the requirements of the tender”, forcing the Met’s hand.
 

Leo

Well-known member
What a colossal fuck up. The US is bad, but the UK is close behind, possibly even worse in the past year.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The government has signed a £200,000-a-year contract with a disaster response charity established by the former head of Britain’s armed forces to help drivers stuck in lorry queues in Kent.
The Department for Transport has enlisted RE:ACT, which uses military veterans to distribute humanitarian aid in war zones and following natural disasters, amid concerns over driver welfare.
The year-long contract, which started in Noveber, means that food and water will be supplied to queues of vehicles on approach roads to Dover and the Channel tunnel if drivers are at a standstill for two days.

Lorry drivers seem to be the only ones gaining from brexit again.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Also, from twitter

There was an article yesterday in the German paper FAZ about the calamitous state of the NHS. It said that people are dying because they can't get treatment and that doctors are raising the alarm.But unlike the British press the German papers are saying it is to do with Brexit.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
the new norms are healthboards in critical incidents and/or special measures

a bunch of people all die from the same unit - nothing is done (see Staffordshire, Kent and more) unless you count post-hoc reviews which aren’t learned from

medical failures don’t look like Dunblane or Hungerford, they happen quietly with families unable to grieve because all the facts are yet to be revealed and are probably happening as I type across a few sectors

Grim Britannia to the fullest extent
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Fucking hell, John. There's naive, and then there's believing that if that vote had gone the other way, the people who organised and financed the Brexit campaign from the outset would have been like "Oh, we're staying in the CU/SM then, that's fine" and left it at that.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
And among those supposed "Labour remainers" who voted against the proposal are several who supported Leave from the start, like Kate Hoey, and several respect-the-resulter's, like Laura Smith, who said - correctly, of course - that staying in the EEA would be seen almost universally as 'Remain in name only'.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps

version

Well-known member
I don't follow TV news too closely, but last night people were tweeting stuff from the BBC highlighting the economic damage of Brexit.

There's also an Unherd poll being circulated claiming a majority of every constituency but three now believe it was a mistake, Murdoch's TalkTV had a bloke on saying it was a complete disaster, Glen Matlock was on the BBC saying how livid he is about what it's done to the touring industry, Nick Ferrari was on LBC grilling a Tory minister for the top three achievements since "getting Brexit done," and I'm sure there have been other instances too.

Maybe this sort of stuff has been reported the whole time and I've just missed it, but the impression I'm getting is it's suddenly been decided that it's now acceptable to discuss it in a negative light and, in terms of mainstream media coverage, the whole thing's shifted almost overnight. They don't seem scared of upsetting the Leave contingent anymore and are just sticking the boot in.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
I think there is definitely a change in attitude. For a long time people have been saying "so and so is a secret remainer" or "labour secretly plan to bring UK back into the EU" - but it seems a strange smear tactic when more than half the country would seemingly approve.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
yeah it has shifted. that period post-brexit vote was so odd, so many weird pent-up forces unleashed. that period seems to be over, and something else is taking its place.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I think there is definitely a change in attitude. For a long time people have been saying "so and so is a secret remainer" or "labour secretly plan to bring UK back into the EU" - but it seems a strange smear tactic when more than half the country would seemingly approve.
There've been tons of polls showing a clear majority now think leaving the EU was a mistake, but I'm never sure how this would translate into support for actually rejoining. For one thing, we obviously wouldn't be able to rejoin on the same terms that we used to enjoy as members. And presumably we'd have to adopt the euro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlar...U members which have,the euro binding on them.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah sure, there is a huge difference between wishing we could be magically back in the EU and having the desire to actually grind through whatever interminable and complex process could conceivably achieve that. But even so, I don't think that labelling someone a Remainer will make them into the hoped for pariah.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
It's interesting telling my guest about British politics, as you might expect he has a vague idea of much of it but doesn't know the day to day events and intricacies - why should he?

Today talking about Brexit, telling him how it unfolded - "So the Leave campaign was fined for breaking the law, but the referendum was non-binding so result could not be cancelled" - "Boris Johnson forced his oven-ready deal through parliament without proper scrutiny and then claimed the EU had tricked us into signing it and that it was unfair" - "The Leave Campaign promised that absolutely noone was talking about leaving the common market - and then we left it" etc etc etc etc - and watching his jaw drop again and again. At the time we were like the frog being boiled alive in the incremental build up of lies and stupidity, but going through it now, splurging all (that I remembered, I forgot to even mention the bus for instance) in one go, the absolutely shocking mendacity and ineptitude hit me with renewed force.
 
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