boxedjoy

Well-known member
I think Wogan was really good at the coverage on the night, I think Norton is good too (although he's clearly been neutered since he left Channel 4), and I think Harry Hill would have been inspired choice if it hadn't been them. I don't think the problem is the commentary on the night, it's the British sense of entitlement around the competition that the media fosters. How many tweets and posts will you see today from men with hot takes who don't listen to pop - homegrown or international - who think suddenly their Very Relevant Opinions are worth anything?
 

version

Well-known member
Was talking to one of my brothers the other day, the tree surgeon, and he was saying it's near-impossible to get hold of chainsaws since Brexit. One of the blokes he works with had to wait months for one.

I'd like to think we'll see some sort of cross-industry opposition to the Tories as a result of all this, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Just went out to try and buy a new shower head in one of these Chinese owned shops they have here - I guess they fulfill the same function as pound shops in England (specifically those ones where almost everything costs more than a pound) but often with a huge range of stuff. Certainly when we first arrived here and moved in we used the nearest one to fill in a lot of gaps of the kind that arise as you just try and live in a new place... "Stick the kettle on" "We aint got one:.. " so you go to the shop.... and then you can't plug something cos your plugs are UK, so back you go and so on and so forth. All the way up to huge bbqs and portable oven etc
Today I was driving back and stopped at one I'd never been to before with the idea of replacing a cracked shower head - bizarrely they didn't have a bathroom section - or perhaps I just missed it in the excitement of buying this flag instead.

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IdleRich

IdleRich
That - of course - represents a British lion soberly and thoughtfully donning once more the mantle of Europe, reflecting on the damage caused by our past hasty actions and hoping that next time we can live up to the expectations that the other states had of us instead of caving in and running for the safety of easy isolationism and sniping pointlessly from the sides.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I used to have a good friend who lived in Oldham. I remember those riots well. There was a lot of Asian on white violence at the time - my friend got chased twice. It was fairly common for younger white guys to get a kicking from Asian lads.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
I used to have a good friend who lived in Oldham. I remember those riots well. There was a lot of Asian on white violence at the time - my friend got chased twice. It was fairly common for younger white guys to get a kicking from Asian lads.
Yep, grim stuff exacerbated by segregated housing and deindustrialisation amongst other factors.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I think it fed into Brexity/nationalist narratives, the way that this stuff never got talked about. The persecution narratives - "the real oppressed are the white men" sort of thing. The local Labour party would never bring it up, not least 'cos the local Muslim community tended to vote as a block and it would violate the way they think of these communities, which is essentially as victims.
 
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john eden

male pale and stale
Yeah it’s noticeable how shit things get when ethnic identities come to the fore like that. London’s not perfect but I think you get a lot less of that here.
 
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