Mr. Tea

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Why didn't somebody SAY that flooding the UK with cheap meat from a country on the other side of the world where animal welfare regulation barely exists would be bad for UK farmers, UK consumers, animal welfare and the environment in general?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It's becoming more and more acceptable for people to state the totally fucking obvious now, baby steps and all that, but at least more and more places are openly pointing to the problems of brexit. It's not going away.
 

Mr. Tea

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It's becoming more and more acceptable for people to state the totally fucking obvious now, baby steps and all that, but at least more and more places are openly pointing to the problems of brexit. It's not going away.
Opinion polls have shown a clear majority now thing Brexit was a bad idea, but I have no idea how that would translate into a mandate for applying to rejoin. I bet loads of people think "Well it's been a total disaster but we've done it now, got to respect democracy, rejoining would only mean more upheaval, blah blah blah."
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
People are saying "it's only 56 - 44 not big enough margin" which... I dunno, I reckon it will get bigger anyway. I dunno what would count as a critical mass. To me it's inevitable that at some point, probably not too far away, the UK will want to join the EU again, the main problem will be how to do it and if they let us and on what terms.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Mishal Husain: Would membership of the single market boost growth & change our current economic outlook?
Jeremy Hunt: "I don't think it's the right way to boost growth, because it would be against what people were voting for when they supported brexit"

And there we have it.
 

Mr. Tea

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'Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market.’ - Daniel Hannannannan, 2015.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Seems like today has seen a huge change in sentiment with a load of people all at once suddenly saying "brexit is causing a lot of problems" - I think that so far a lot of brexiters have preferred to pretend that brexit is working and just try and ignore the problems, but those problems are not going away, in fact they are mounting up and it's getting to the stage where all but the most insane ideologues are realising that they can't stick to that strategy forever.

Also of course as soon as one person admits it it becomes easier for everyone else too.

Andrew Neil in the Mail tomorrow...

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Mr. Tea

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I think there have been pieces saying "Project Fear was right all along" even in the Daily Brexitgraph, too.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Sadiqkhan; Let’s be honest: Brexit isn’t working. British exporters are struggling, our living standards are falling and the UK is now the only G7 country with a smaller economy than before the pandemic. Unless we face up to the harm Brexit is causing we can't start to address it.
 

Mr. Tea

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Yeah, in amongst the articles desperately claiming the Tories are 'socialist' for doing things The Telegraph doesn't like.
Like the nutters frotting themselves silly over Truss and Kwarteng's insane scheme, saying "at last, a real Conservative budget!", before the markets and IMF made them get back in their basket.

Because obviously the government has been running the economy on an anarcho-syndicalist basis for the last 12 years, right?
 

Mr. Tea

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IdleRich

IdleRich
Saw this on twitter today

Breaking! Asylum seekers are given free eggs while hard working Brits are denied the great British breakfast. We'll name and shame those supplying eggs to illegals!

How small-minded must you be to be outraged about asylum seekers getting eggs. Not just impotent rage though, he decided to act on it, to search out all the examples of people giving out eggs and then spread them to all the other outraged people too. You only get one life (as far as I know), does he really want to use part of it for this?

Supposing at the end of your life there is some sort of trial or something where you have to justify your actions and explain the things you did. I'm imagining standing there in front of this blank-faced personification of justice - part inquisitor part auditor - the way you used your precious gift of time must be explained and you gotta tell it that there were some people that you believed were illegal immigrants and thus not entitled to eggs and so you used up hours working out which organisations were responsible for funnelling eggs to those disgraceful freeloading egg receivers and then you transmitted that information to like-minded people so that they could punish the egg-distributors by boycotting them.
 
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