Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)
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- "the delta variant" starring arnold schwarzenegger #braille4bats and dancing!!! biscuits nuts bodies in the streets cool people with bad lungs corpsey = patient zero do you ever look at this thread and wtf get pits done haha protein printer go brrr i'm trapped please help johnson’s technique please boris die public health films for bats rodent trumpet rotting corpses sailing the sea of biscuits slick prick soggy biscuits wash hands or die trying we are the swarm wear a fucking baguette then wubonic plague wuhan got you all in check
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luka
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Tea is going to commit hari-kiri when he sees ive beat him to the punch on that one. its his only honourable path out
mixed_biscuits
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Many are trapped in the structure of mutually reinforcing half-truths that's been built by:
- sensationalist press
- public scared witless by the press and the government
- risk-averse and unprincipled populist government
- scientific advice used as a grab-bag by the government to suit its political/strategic ends (eg. using Ferguson's paper to give lockdown a sheen of credibility)
- broadcasters singing from the same hymn sheet, having been directed to do so by the government
Leo
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so better if those infected people are out in public spreading it to others, then?
I'm mostly playing devil's advocate, you make some valid points. my point is it was a risk to not overact to some degree because government s didn't have data before the surge, so they had no way of knowing.
I'm mostly playing devil's advocate, you make some valid points. my point is it was a risk to not overact to some degree because government s didn't have data before the surge, so they had no way of knowing.
mixed_biscuits
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- The universal stay-home measure would make more sense if we could have nipped the thing in the bud, like NZ did (which creates its own problems...what does one do next?)
- If viral load determines the severity of the case, then having everyone out and about as the virus spreads means that they are more likely to catch _just enough_ to become ill and then have a weaker case. So more cases overall, but fewer bad ones (this is assuming that the vulnerable are shielded, which I agree with).
Another consideration is that the moral calculus is being made in a mass-utilitarian way; say, lockdown may result in overall better outcomes but may unfairly consign a subset of individuals to worse outcomes because their management of the situation is restricted...this might apply to people living in multi-occupancy houses prevented from staying out during the day or moving.
- If viral load determines the severity of the case, then having everyone out and about as the virus spreads means that they are more likely to catch _just enough_ to become ill and then have a weaker case. So more cases overall, but fewer bad ones (this is assuming that the vulnerable are shielded, which I agree with).
Another consideration is that the moral calculus is being made in a mass-utilitarian way; say, lockdown may result in overall better outcomes but may unfairly consign a subset of individuals to worse outcomes because their management of the situation is restricted...this might apply to people living in multi-occupancy houses prevented from staying out during the day or moving.
Leo
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mixed_biscuits
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Indeed. I don't know how connected those in nursing homes are but one option might have been for families to take their oldies back under their own roofs, where the virus may be less prevalent.
Now, it's hard to arrange things like that if you're not allowed to leave your house and make things happen.
Lowering the deaths by a significant amount is all about targeted management of the vulnerable: the old and the already ill. It's not about locking up the young and healthy.
mixed_biscuits
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Following the reasonable worse case did not serve care home users very well: they were turned away from hospitals in large part to leave capacity for other people, far fewer of whom appeared than was expected.
Mr. Tea
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Fantastic. That's as good as "Luke" and "droid"!
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well that was good in part because it creates an instant and iconic mental image.
But I bear you no ill will for having spotted this one and in fact I take my hat off.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
while jizzing
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
If you can do that while on three strong E's then you're more of a man that I'll ever be.
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