Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)
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WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
@mixed_biscuits Lack of treatment options, fairly obv leap of logic.
I’d hazard a guess that, a few years from now, the true UK death rate will be considerably higher than official govt sources are willing to suggest. Trust the Tory machine? Never.
I’d hazard a guess that, a few years from now, the true UK death rate will be considerably higher than official govt sources are willing to suggest. Trust the Tory machine? Never.
mixed_biscuits
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Well, those that are using it, as in that chart.
mixed_biscuits
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They are not in an extraordinary need of any other treatment options as it's pretty effective, as the chart shows.
On the other hand, we are!
IdleRich
IdleRich
You are telling me that you are certain that very single country listed on the official Gummibear737 chart as using HCQ is definitely using it as a main treatment of C19 to the extent that it is reasonable to assert that any improvement in results compared to the red countries is because of HCQ?
linebaugh
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Why do you believe hcq is being discouraged @mixed_biscuits ?
mixed_biscuits
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Four things:
1) It's a cheap generic and would preclude Big Pharma from making $$$ from their bespoke drugs ($3000 per course, rather than $1 a pill or less)
2) Excessive scrupulosity: health systems holding out for the 'perfect' solution; systemic risk aversion and conformity in praxis
3) Politicisation (I wish Trump had never mentioned it - he got the tip from the Koreans and Chinese, who were already using it)
4) Too much money swilling about in countries like ours, breeding corruption; the poorer countries have been left to get on with using it (and if it were truly risky, there would be an international movement to stop its use in developing countries)
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Lotta people use homeopathy, don't they?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I find this very unconvincing, for two reasons.
First, there's only 55 countries here, which is about a quarter of all the sovereign states in the world. For all we know, it might be possible to select a different 55 countries and make it look like it's showing the opposite.
Second, and more importantly: my partner and I were, coincidentally, talking earlier about which cartoons from our own childhoods we're going to show our little boy when he's old enough to appreciate them, and agreed that Gummi Bears was an absolute travesty, so anyone who liked it enough to base their Twitter handle on it is obviously wrong and a twat.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
what did gummi bears do?
version
Well-known member
The sugar-free ones give you explosive diarrhea.
www.buzzfeednews.com
Sugarless Haribo Gummy Bear Reviews On Amazon Are The Most Insane Thing You'll Read Today
Why on earth would anyone buy these sugar-free bears after reviewers warned not to eat more than 15 at a time "unless you are trying to power wash your intestines"?
www.buzzfeednews.com
mixed_biscuits
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Not for things like covid.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I fucking bet millions of people are.
We live in a world where people think drinking hot water with a slice of lemon in it is going to cure their cancer, remember.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Bounce around being generally annoying, IIRC.
mixed_biscuits
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Well, if it results in a CFR 10x better than ours, maybe we should too!
mixed_biscuits
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Those countries capture most of the world's population; looking at what Andorra and the Marshall Islands do isn't going to be especially revelatory.
Leo
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@mixed_biscuits could go far in American business. Unflappable, dispassionate, calculated decision making. Nothing wishy washy, no hedging. Takes a position and owns it.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Andorra, interestingly, is one of the few states with a covid-19 death rate worse than the UK's.
Although their total population is about the same as that of Tamworth.
IdleRich
IdleRich
The main thing for me is that a number of proper studies with control and double-blind and all that have repeatedly concluded that a) HCQ does not produce any improvement in recovery from C19 and b) is actually dangerous to take if you don't have any of the approved reasons for taking it... I tend to give them far more credence than a random graph that shows some kind of correlation (if it's accurate and true - cos it gives no sources and doesn't say what it means for a country to be "using" hcq) between countries that do and don't use it but which doesn't allow for any other factors whatsoever such as age of population, pop density and so on.
Also, today I was laughing at Trump when he said "Our case numbers are wrongly high cos we do more testing" and then seconds later said "our mortality rate per case is best in the world" - which is only true cos the case numbers are so high, that fucking idiot Trump said that the very same stat was wrong when he didn't like it but right when it was used to calculate something he did. Then I come on dissensus and find Mixed Biscuits who has spent the last three months claiming that the UK mortality rate from C19 is way too high... and now he uses that high rate to argue that the UK is making a mistake in not using HCQ. So which is it MB, is that stat right or wrong (and if you calculate some optimum "correct" value for it that leaves UK in the red on that graph and still just about supports your claim that UK has over-counted I will spot that).
Also, today I was laughing at Trump when he said "Our case numbers are wrongly high cos we do more testing" and then seconds later said "our mortality rate per case is best in the world" - which is only true cos the case numbers are so high, that fucking idiot Trump said that the very same stat was wrong when he didn't like it but right when it was used to calculate something he did. Then I come on dissensus and find Mixed Biscuits who has spent the last three months claiming that the UK mortality rate from C19 is way too high... and now he uses that high rate to argue that the UK is making a mistake in not using HCQ. So which is it MB, is that stat right or wrong (and if you calculate some optimum "correct" value for it that leaves UK in the red on that graph and still just about supports your claim that UK has over-counted I will spot that).
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