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How bad is covid really?
A hospital doctor in Sweden writes
sebastianrushworth.com
I am not denying that covid is awful for the people who do get really sick or for the families of the people who die, just as it is awful for the families of people who die of cancer, or influenza, or an opioid overdose. But the size of the response in most of the world (not including Sweden) has been totally disproportionate to the size of the threat.
Sweden ripped the metaphorical band-aid off quickly and got the epidemic over and done with in a short amount of time, while the rest of the world has chosen to try to peel the band-aid off slowly. At present that means Sweden has one of the highest total death rates in the world. But covid is over in Sweden. People have gone back to their normal lives and barely anyone is getting infected any more. I am willing to bet that the countries that have shut down completely will see rates spike when they open up. If that is the case, then there won’t have been any point in shutting down in the first place, because all those countries are going to end up with the same number of dead at the end of the day anyway. Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long
A hospital doctor in Sweden writes
How bad is covid really? (A Swedish doctor’s perspective)
I've spent the whole covid pandemic working as a doctor in the emergency room in a hospital in Stockholm, Sweden. I therefore have a front-line perspective.
sebastianrushworth.com
I am not denying that covid is awful for the people who do get really sick or for the families of the people who die, just as it is awful for the families of people who die of cancer, or influenza, or an opioid overdose. But the size of the response in most of the world (not including Sweden) has been totally disproportionate to the size of the threat.
Sweden ripped the metaphorical band-aid off quickly and got the epidemic over and done with in a short amount of time, while the rest of the world has chosen to try to peel the band-aid off slowly. At present that means Sweden has one of the highest total death rates in the world. But covid is over in Sweden. People have gone back to their normal lives and barely anyone is getting infected any more. I am willing to bet that the countries that have shut down completely will see rates spike when they open up. If that is the case, then there won’t have been any point in shutting down in the first place, because all those countries are going to end up with the same number of dead at the end of the day anyway. Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long
Mr. Tea
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New Zealand lifted its lockdown two months ago today after a grand total of 22 deaths. Since then they've averaged about one new case per day. They've beaten it.How bad is covid really?
A hospital doctor in Sweden writes
How bad is covid really? (A Swedish doctor’s perspective)
I've spent the whole covid pandemic working as a doctor in the emergency room in a hospital in Stockholm, Sweden. I therefore have a front-line perspective.
I am not denying that covid is awful for the people who do get really sick or for the families of the people who die, just as it is awful for the families of people who die of cancer, or influenza, or an opioid overdose. But the size of the response in most of the world (not including Sweden) has been totally disproportionate to the size of the threat.
Sweden ripped the metaphorical band-aid off quickly and got the epidemic over and done with in a short amount of time, while the rest of the world has chosen to try to peel the band-aid off slowly. At present that means Sweden has one of the highest total death rates in the world. But covid is over in Sweden. People have gone back to their normal lives and barely anyone is getting infected any more. I am willing to bet that the countries that have shut down completely will see rates spike when they open up. If that is the case, then there won’t have been any point in shutting down in the first place, because all those countries are going to end up with the same number of dead at the end of the day anyway. Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long
I honestly don't understand why some people are saying "we're all going to get it eventually" when I've never heard anyone saying this about any other infectious disease. They didn't say that about SARS-cov-1, which is more infectious than SARS-cov-2.
mixed_biscuits
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NZ are going to have plan their reintegration with the rest of the world very carefully, athough they do have the advantage of being very difficult to visit without an invite.
mixed_biscuits
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I think we locked down late enough for the virus to then approach herd immunity anyway. If we had locked down early, we would be experiencing this sort of thing now, as we open up (by necessity):
IdleRich
IdleRich
I'd say if that's the worst aspect of this from their perspective then they've done fine.
mixed_biscuits
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Time will tell!
We already know that close to the majority of people who get it are asymptomatic. It only gets to work on people who are both receptive to it and already on a slippery slope, fitness-wise. It gives them a push towards the exit. But not in greater numbers than anything else we've seen, even in living memory - 1957, 1968, 2009.
I'm coming around to the idea that the whole thing has been used as an excuse for centralised States and their bosses to re-assert their control. Spicy scare stories about strokes, long-term effects, kawasaki, etc scare people, the news equivalents of the protein spikes on SARS-CoV-2's shell to force entry into an otherwise blasé population's consciousness. "Shit, this one is different! Not only deadly, but nasty!".
woops
is not like other people
so you do have some musical taste after all?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well I've tuned in to several live performances by this Extractor Fan individual, whom (I'm told) only the most discerning members of the cognoscenti even know about...
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
They're an island nation. We're an island nation. We were never in the Schengen area and we're not even in the EU any more. A failure to stop people visiting early on in the pandemic, especially from China, Italy and Spain, is one of the more obvious of this government's many, many fuck-ups.
Should have stuck with herd immunity from the start, as for every other virus, with shielding for the old and sick while the rest of us carried on as normal. Cowardice has cost everywhere except Sweden very dear (yes, I know their economy tanked by 8%, but they're a player in the world economy that has tanked by 2 to 4 times that).
NZ will get their fair share eventually unless they lock down until there's a vaccine. But theres never been a durable coronavirus vaccine.
luka
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NZ has been deliberately shielded because it's where the billionaires have their bunkers.
mixed_biscuits
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It was probably quite widespread by end January already - eradication would have been impossible. SAGE advised against blocking incoming flights.
The biggest f-up was on the WHO's part, in not isolating China.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
You.
Don't.
Need.
To.
Be.
Old.
Or.
Sick.
To.
Get.
Fucked.
Up.
By.
SARS-CoV-2.
People much younger than you, with no previous major illnesses, have caught this bug back in the spring and are still suffering from major health problems from which they may never recover. I'm getting extremely tired of this bullshit macho attitude of "If I caught it, I'd be laid up with the sniffles for a couple of days, fight it off with hot toddies and then I'd be right as rain." Until you've caught it, you have no idea how badly, or for how long, it's going to affect you. Clearly you get a buzz out of saying "I'm not scared". Well, I am. Lifelong cognitive impairment and reduced heart, lung and liver function? No fucking thanks.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Right-wingers are now sharing this article about all the stuff did to fight the Coronavirus early - in-between golfing, holding rallies and denying that it would have any serious effect - and which the LAMEstream media didn't report.
thefederalist.com
Really made me laugh quite a lot, things such as this massively important development which I'm surprised didn't stop C19 in its tracks right then
The Media Is Blatantly Lying About Trump’s Coronavirus Response
Conventional wisdom fueled by the media is that the White House ignored the coronavirus threat in January and February. It is absolutely false.
thefederalist.com
Really made me laugh quite a lot, things such as this massively important development which I'm surprised didn't stop C19 in its tracks right then
Difficult for me to give too much credit to Trump for simply being president at the time it happened though. Clutching at straws to an embarrassing extent.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The long-term health effects of COVID-19
Even mild symptoms from the new coronavirus can last for weeks, or disappear only to rebound with renewed intensity, so what long-term effects does the disease have on our health?
www.gavi.org
mixed_biscuits
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You're more likely to be impaired by the vaccine than the virus at this stage, Mr T.
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