mixed_biscuits

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Note that if you're smart, you can not take it and still boast about it.

But then those who actually jabbed themselves experimentally will insist upon certification and you're screwed.

In which case, yeah, probably better to take part in the experiment.
 
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Leo

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oh believe me, I got very tired of people posting their vaccine paperwork or actual jabs on instagram a long time ago, I won't be alerting the world.

if someone doesn't want to get a shot, it's their decision, I'm not preaching to anyone. let them take the chance and suffer the potential consequences, no skin of my back.
 

Leo

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this is why the implanted microchip is so important

Online Scammers Have a New Offer For You: Vaccine Cards

On Etsy, eBay, Facebook and Twitter, little rectangular slips of paper started showing up for sale in late January. Printed on card stock, they measured three-by-four inches and featured crisp black lettering. Sellers listed them for $20 to $60 each, with a discount on bundles of three or more. Laminated ones cost extra.

All were forgeries or falsified copies of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards, which are given to people who have been inoculated against Covid-19 in the United States.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Vaccines deal with target variants but increase susceptibility to other ones, prompting new vaccines which do the same...all against an unchanging backdrop of economic and social decline.
 

Leo

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Vaccines deal with target variants but increase susceptibility to other ones, prompting new vaccines which do the same...all against an unchanging backdrop of economic and social decline.

is any of that true? what's your source for how vaccines increase susceptibility to new variants?

and economies are clearly on the uptick, predicted to boom here as summer rolls around: more people vaccinated or immune, businesses reopening to full capacity, pent up demand from consumers who are eager to get out there and spend. just cuz yr fucked by Brexit doesn't mean everyone is.
 
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mixed_biscuits

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They're not being reinfected but differently infected with their acquired immunity working against them.

Worst case is that common cold viruses become much deadlier.
 

Mr. Tea

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Widespread exposure to the first virus in Brazil may similarly be exacerbating the impact of their current variant.
Well that's your "let's all catch it and then we'll be immune" thing you were promoting a year ago blown the fuck out of the water, wouldn't you say?
 

Leo

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Antibody dependent enhancement was already known about but obv having a corrupt media that ignores or suppresses anything beyond the party line means the general public knows little about this:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19022319/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32908214/
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doesn't that sound more like garden variety legal-ese, protecting themselves with language that you find on any drug ever? "available data does not indicated a risk of vaccine-enhanced disease and conversely suggest effectiveness...however, risk of something happening sometime in the future is unknown". well, yeah, isn't that the case with everything in life?
 

mixed_biscuits

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doesn't that sound more like garden variety legal-ese, protecting themselves with language that you find on any drug ever? "available data does not indicated a risk of vaccine-enhanced disease and conversely suggest effectiveness...however, risk of something happening sometime in the future is unknown". well, yeah, isn't that the case with everything in life?
I think it's a minimalist assertion that there is no evidence for it with the unstated caveat that only long-term data would provide any evidence.

A bit like saying, 'There is no current evidence that standing in the motorway is a risk' just because the articulated lorry hasn't hit me yet.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Well that's your "let's all catch it and then we'll be immune" thing you were promoting a year ago blown the fuck out of the water, wouldn't you say?
Everywhere else that did that is okay at the moment. Ideally, herd immunity exhausts the available variants before a mutant gets a foothold - same principle to the vaccines.
 
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