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IdleRich

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They're not all stupid, you know. I'm aligned with these cunts, I suppose, but my spelling - well, it's among the best on dissensus/conformus.
But you must have noticed, say, how many massively racist brexiters have a much worse grasp of English than the foreigners that they insist are polluting our country and ruining its culture.... some kind of irony there I always think.
And the same goes for anti-vaxxers - now I am not saying that spelling ability or command of grammar is a direct measure of intelligence, cos it isn't. But I do always wonder, why is it that, if you pick a hundred anti-vax types, despite the fact that - as long as they went to a bog-standard English comprehensive school - they have had essentially the same education as me, so many of them have completely failed to take in extremely basic stuff in English, and also in maths and science and so on, that I, and I'm assuming you too, were able to understand by the time we were about seven years old?
And yet if you considered one hundred sheeple whose thoughts on the subject of vaccines are more broadly aligned with the prevailing medical consensus you would not find a lack of academic ability so pronounced that it leaps out of even the most neutral sentence.
 
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IdleRich

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Also, a more serious point, what precisely is meant by medical apartheid here?
As I understand it, for many years, we have had a system where, if you are going to take a trip to various countries, you need to get a jab to protect you from the diseases that are known to exist there so that you don't risk catching them and either dying, or bringing them back to the UK
And no-one really seemed to have a problem with that...
But now a similar system is being introduced with regard to Covid. And yeah, it's internal so it's slightly different in that respect, but ultimately, what is being done in each case is
a) It was recognised that there was a dangerous disease which is very infectious and can kill you and
b) A vaccine was developed which gave some protection from catching the disease, made it less serious if you did and overall reduced the chances of spreading it amongst those who were vaccinated
c) Laws were introduced which required people who wanted to do certain things or go to certain places to have the vaccine.
And my question is really, what is it that has people up in arms this time? Are you complaining about the whole idea - which is I suppose, something that someone given to hyperbole and willing to forgive imprecise use of language could loosely describe as a medical apartheid - or i it a particular part of it or what?
 

IdleRich

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So you are against the system of jabs being required for visits to certain countries and you do consider that medical apartheid.
 

wild greens

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Personally I kind of understand the logic behind the vaccine fear, especially if you've actually had covid already as lots have now.

But these "freedom" marches are clearly full of serious gimps and why anyone thinks aligning themselves with Icke and actually listening to people like Katie Hopkins need their head looking at tbh

Skepticism gradually adjusting to being led around by the cock by Der harte Kern utilising the Q cell model is pretty shameful, let's be honest about it.
 

IdleRich

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I feel that there is some kind of sloppy thinking with a lot of people protesting about "medical apartheid" cos I think that if there were a disease that certainly killed anyone who caught it and for which there was a vaccine that provided one hundred percent immunity, then the majority of those protesting would go along with only allowing vaccinated people in certain places. And already they do go along with vaccines for travel and so on. But it feels that the issue is more that they don't believe in the disease or the vaccine, or at least only partly, and the result is some kind of mixture of antivax covid-denial and inconsistently applied appeal to human rights.
It's like a load of half arguments have been put together and made into one whole... but that's not how these things work.
 
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