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I can't tell if it's even a real interview tbh. It looks like a scene from Curb Your Enthusiasm or something.
 

Mr. Tea

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That's crazy. You can see her bite her lip as she asks about Taiwan again and he very pointedly starts talking about China.

What's the context to this? Is the implication that the WHO is so scared of China it doesn't even want to acknowledge that Taiwan is a country?
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
So you three all, uh, play the market? Is it fun? Or you just do it for the money?
I have investments. I only manage a small portion of them myself. I don't have the time or $ it takes to really "play the market".

I don't find it fun at all, in fact the opposite. as previously stated I don't want to be old and poor, and investments are usually the best way to avoid that.

I also think that financial literacy is one of the means by which power is exercised, and so worth knowing. coding is another.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
This thing with the WHO guy re: Taiwan is weird
the WHO is afraid to talk about Taiwan b/c of China is exactly the implication

governments and multinationals tiptoe around the Chinese govt, so it's hardly surprising a toothless advisory agency does

the WHO has in fact, basically been cheerleading the Chinese govt throughout this entire mess

and it's own response was pretty fucking terrible - only declaring a global pandemic on 11 March - possibly (probably) influenced by China

and China has been blocking Taiwan joining the WHO for decades

so yeah. you get an excruciating spectacle like that.

straight up pretending to just not hear her question and then dropping the call is pretty amazing, admittedly
 

IdleRich

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So you three all, uh, play the market? Is it fun? Or you just do it for the money?
I don't at all, no. When I worked as a trader we were doing arbitrage which basically is working out which things are the same and then profiting from that. So, for a simple example, Shell and Royal Dutch are the same company, they are traded in the UK as Shell in pounds and in NL as RD in euros. The price should be the same per share cos it's the same thing. So if you watch the price in the UK and the NL and the price of the pound to euro (OK and there is probably a price to change RD to Shell or vice versa) and basically if the Shell one becomes more than the RD one you simultaneously sell the former and buy the latter and that's free money. But you don't have to know anything about whether Shell is a good or bad investment or is going to go up or down. So people I knew would ask me that kind of thing all the time and I'd just shrug my shoulders. The people I worked with had loads of money cos they were good (enough) at trading and had been doing it a while - a lot of the time they invested some of that money in shares and a lot of the time they lost a lot of it.
Edit for accuracy: I've actually oversimplified that slightly cos RD was bigger than Shell or vice versa and the shares each was divided into were not the same, so you would also have to adjust for that too. Same principle though ultimately.
 
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IdleRich

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There was a behind enemy lines type operation here to get a mate out of istanbul this week. 3 flights cancelled. Managed to get one of the last flights to Gatwick. He had to leave everything behind and flee.
Was thinking about this today cos a friend of mine who lives in Russia - an English guy we met while we there and who is now married to a Russian girl - asked if we'd stayed in Portugal or gone back to UK. I had to admit I'd never even considered going back, I suppose I could have gone there to stay at my parents (they have a garden and more space after all) but we would have driven each other mad quite quickly I think. He said "If I wasn't married to a Russia I would have been on the last plane out for sure" but I still don't really understand why.
 

IdleRich

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Where is that? At least that looks as though it were built by someone that grasps what's going on.
Seems like even Johnson gets it now at last. Although his latest announcement is astoundingly duplicitous

“From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time,” Johnson says in the letter, which will land on doorsteps this week. “We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do."
Pretty sure that at the start he was seeking to do the exact opposite but better late than never (just).
 

luka

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It'll be interesting to see if Sweden and other countries like it end up weathering the storm better than the countries who have shut up shop.
 

droid

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It'll be interesting to see if Sweden and other countries like it end up weathering the storm better than the countries who have shut up shop.

Sweden have 1/3 more cases than us but three times the deaths. They arent doing that badly so far, but my guess is they'll see a big jump in 7-10 days. The numbers are inexorable.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
omg this truly crazy Trump proposal to quarantine NY/NJ/CT from the rest of the country

for one it's almost definitely illegal, and unenforceable unless you're going to deploy the military to occupy part of your own fucking country

for another even if you were going to, that ship sailed weeks ago. fucking weeks!
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
you guys know I try to take his nonsense in stride but Jesus wept

I'm actively rooting for him get sick and die at this point

surely it would save many lives just by not making the country's situation actively worse every time he opens his goddamn mouth
 

luka

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you guys know I try to take his nonsense in stride but Jesus wept

I'm actively rooting for him get sick and die at this point

surely it would save many lives just by not making the country's situation actively worse every time he opens his goddamn mouth

With corona or with some other disease? Ideally speaking...
 

pattycakes_

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The reliability of China’s coronavirus numbers is under question once again in view of the staggering amount of urns being distributed out in Wuhan.

According to official Chinese government data, 50,006 people were infected with the Covid-19 virus in Wuhan with 2,535 dying from the disease.

However, Chinese investigative outlet Caixin reports that when mortuaries opened back up this week in the Hubei capital, people had to wait in line for as long as five hours to receive the remains of their loved ones lost during the epidemic.

One photo published by Caixin shows a truck loaded with 2,500 urns arriving at the Hankou Mortuary. The driver said that he had delivered the same amount to the mortuary the day before.

Another photo shows stacks of urns inside the mortuary. There were seven stacks with 500 urns in each stack, adding up to 3,500 urns.

Taken together with the new shipment, the number of urns on hand at the mortuary looks to be more than double Wuhan’s death toll.

Urns are reportedly being distributed at a rate of 500 a day at the mortuary until the Tomb Sweeping Day holiday, which falls on April 4 this year.

Wuhan has seven other mortuaries. If they are all sticking to the same schedule, this adds up to more than 40,000 urns being distributed in the city over the next 10 days.

When reporters at Bloomberg made calls to the funeral homes to check on the number of urns waiting to be collected, the mortuaries said that they either did not have that data or were not authorized to disclose it.
 
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