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mixed_biscuits

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It's supposed to be effective only for those with incipient cases as a prophylactic, not for those having to be hospitalised.

Many countries are using it widely or as the central pillar of their treatment (including South Korea) and Piedmont's pharmacies now distribute it for free; the idea being you take it as soon as you feel in any way awry:
https://torino.repubblica.it/cronac...a_in_farmacia_il_farmaco_plaquenil-254798700/

All this has been happening outside of the anglophone/Trump bubble - a typical instance of our media ignoring anything written in foreign.
 

mixed_biscuits

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On a related note, I have not seen any mediatised attempt to assess whether we've actually got better at treating it here - which is a bit of a scandal, given how comparatively poor our stats are.
 

droid

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There may be newer studies, and research India suggests it may be useful for healthcare workers who suffer from heavy exposure, but...

“The pandemic Coronavirus Disease-19 (COVID-19) has pushed the global health care system to a crisis and amounted to a huge economic and societal burden,” Shah and colleagues wrote. “Prevention of transmission of the disease in the population, particularly among high-risk individuals, is the urgent need of the hour. Different drugs for prophylaxis against COVID-19 including CQ or HCQ have been tried. Although pre-clinical results are promising, till date, there is dearth of good quality evidence to support the clinical efficacy of CQ or HCQ in preventing COVID-19.”

They added, “Because of the lack of robust clinical evidence till date, and duly considering the questionable efficacy, safety concerns, danger of deprivation of these essential drugs to legitimate patients, due to panic stocking and instilling a false sense of protection among the common mass, the prophylactic use of CQ or HCQ against COVID-19 needs to be further reviewed as more data pour in.”

 

Leo

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just out to do some food shopping, lucky if 50% of people on the street are wearing masks. I get that you're much less likely to be exposed to the virus outdoors compared to an enclosed space, but still. saw a few pregnant women without masks, that seems pretty irresponsible regardless of where you stand on it.
 

Leo

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yeah, very different here. masks are mandatory for being inside any store, and most of them have clear plastic sheets set up between you and the cashier. many discourage use of cash, change/debit only. no restaurants open for seating yet.

then again, I imagine your area hasn't had mass graves for virus victims.
 

Mr. Tea

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saw a few pregnant women without masks, that seems pretty irresponsible regardless of where you stand on it.

Masks are effective at protecting other people from the mask-wearer, and much less effective the other way round - I think wearing one decreases your chances of being infected in the presence of exhaled viruses by about 25%. So it makes much more sense for everyone else to be wearing masks in the presence of people in the high-risk category (which, in terms of bare survival rates, mostly means elderly men).
 

Leo

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I put it in the "why take the chance?" category. women go through a particular pregnancy just once, why risk it even if the chances are relatively low?
 

Leo

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interesting, from a NY Times article last week...

Mr. Bannon said that instead of coming up with new programs to deal with the millions of people who may never get their old jobs back, the White House and its conservative allies were falling back on the kind of stimulus policies they purport to loathe.

Where were all the conservative businessmen who have insisted that the government get out of their way, Mr. Bannon asked? “I saw them all, once again, run to the government for bailouts,” he said.

If the pandemic doesn’t break the boomer generation’s grip on American government, some see hope that it will end the brand of conservatism that has thrived during their time in power.

“Where’s my copy of ‘Atlas Shrugged?’” Mr. Bannon asked, referring to the Ayn Rand novel that conservatives often cite for its heroic portrayal of individualism and self-determination. “It’s in the shredder.”
 

Mr. Tea

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I put it in the "why take the chance?" category. women go through a particular pregnancy just once, why risk it even if the chances are relatively low?
True. I'm really glad we had our little one when we did, rather than six months later. The idea of having to have a baby in an NHS hospital right now is pretty terrifying.
 

version

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I have to go into hospital soon. Hopefully I can get in sooner rather than later and avoid what I imagine will be a sudden resurgence of cases.
 
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