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Benny Bunter

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not saying i'm advocating for it. i just mean that the problem is not covid, but that there is an industry of 17 million animals in little cages breeded for fur.
not saying i'm advocating for it. i just mean that the problem is not covid, but that there is an industry of 17 million animals in little cages breeded for fur.
I didn't think you were advocating for it, I know what you mean and I agree. Maybe the industry was on its way out anyway, its banned in a lot of countries - I don't know, perhaps chava can shed some light on this?

I was just having an emotional response to the act itself I guess.
 

chava

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But does anyone know about the possibility of other animals catching and spreading the virus to humans? Have there been other culls apart from minks, or are they just seen as especially susceptible or something?

I seem to remember a story about a tiger that caught it earlier on in the pandemic but I'm more on about farm animals, cows and so on.

It has been located in cats and dogs as well I believe. The mink thing is possibly dangerous because of the quantity. The mutations run quick in industrial farming (same problem with bird and swine flu..).
 

chava

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I didn't think you were advocating for it, I know what you mean and I agree. Maybe the industry was on its way out anyway, its banned in a lot of countries - I don't know, perhaps chava can shed some light on this?

I was just having an emotional response to the act itself I guess.

Yes, Netherlands has done the same (on less panicky manner; phasing the production out over a few years). It will move to China and Russia now, with their spotless animal ethical production standards. Still some claim the industry was heavily indebted and this was just a question of time anyway (akin to Amazon killing local stores en masse because of lockdown is just a speeding up of the inevitable)
 

Mr. Tea

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Also I don't see why vaccination wouldn't stop transmission completely. Why do you think there's no more polio or smallpox?
 

mixed_biscuits

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Also I don't see why vaccination wouldn't stop transmission completely. Why do you think there's no more polio or smallpox?

As far as I know, they've stated that it won't affect transmission other than to the extent it depends on symptomaticity.

The bar for success for most of the vaccines is quite low: all they're aiming to do is reduce the milder symptoms.
 

mixed_biscuits

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The vaccine is just a PR trick to get people to return to normal now that the virus is dwindling away (or it's a meat cull/mind control device).
 

yyaldrin

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Yes, Netherlands has done the same (on less panicky manner; phasing the production out over a few years). It will move to China and Russia now, with their spotless animal ethical production standards. Still some claim the industry was heavily indebted and this was just a question of time anyway (akin to Amazon killing local stores en masse because of lockdown is just a speeding up of the inevitable)

i always thought these mink farms were highly profitable?
 

Leo

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The vaccine is just a PR trick to get people to return to normal now that the virus is dwindling away (or it's a meat cull/mind control device).

what are you talking about? we're breaking new infection records every day, the last seven-day average is more than 145,000 new cases per day.

Officials in the United States have reported more than 11 million cases of coronavirus as of Sunday, as the country’s outbreaks speed to agonizing new levels of hospitalizations. The tally passed 10 million just a week ago, and more than 1 in 400 Americans have tested positive since.

The country logged more than 159,100 new cases on Saturday, the third highest total of the pandemic, raising the new seven-day average to more than 145,000, with upward trends in 48 states and an 80 percent increase in added cases from the average two weeks ago.

Ten states set single-day case records; 29 states added more cases in the last week than in any other seven-day period. On Sunday, officials in New Jersey announced 4,538 new cases, the second single-day record in a row.
 
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