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Mr. Tea

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The vast majority of Covid deaths are -withs and every other major cause of death is below the 5-year average, including things that are nothing to do with Covid.
This has been exploded so many times I can't even be arsed to respond properly. Except to point out that the excess death figure for last year was the highest since 1945.

Why do you keep coming back here, only to embarrass yourself over and over again? Do you have a humiliation fetish or something?
 
Any of those excess deaths caused by the NHS closing it doors to everyone with less sexy cancers and cardiovascular conditions? Or suicides? Or elderly dementia patients giving up the ghost because they think their families have abandoned them?
 

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Even if excess deaths are high (in many European countries, they aren't, especially), a big part of the reason is because effective treatments have been blocked, 10ks of people have been infected knowingly (elderly shunted to care homes) and 10ks lockdown deaths...the more you research it, the less important is the influence of Covid per se.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Many of you are beholden to the psychological phenomenon of anchoring: you're stuck with this preconception of Covid's gravity and no evidence will shift this preconception.
 

catalog

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The thing that seems to be missing from this conversation is the age profile.

An overwhelming majority of the deaths are over 60s.

And the vaccine does seem to be working, at least in this country, in that it now seems to be keeping that age group of out hospital.
 

Mr. Tea

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Could you quote a post where I've said "all state laws around the pandemic are sensible and proportionate, and any level of violence in enforcing them is justified"?
Of course you can't, because I've never said any such thing, and since everything you've said about the virus itself has turned out to be embarrassingly wrong, you have nothing left except silly straw-man accusations.
 

Mr. Tea

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I'd pay good money to watch you show that graph to someone who watched their parents slowly drown in their own snot, or a previously healthy 30-something who now can't walk more than a few metres without collapsing, and say "Dry your eyes, snowflake! It's just a minor blip in an overall downwards trend!"
 

Mr. Tea

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Nah, just wondering why you weren't climbing the walls ten years ago, or any year before then.
If you can so glibly dismiss well over a hundred thousand excess deaths, many of which could have been avoided if this terrible government hadn't pandered to people like you, then why the ludicrous display of crocodile tears over a few hundred deaths that may have been linked to the vaccination programme?
 
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